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How to have a correct reflow with indesign?

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   ced ben Level 1

ced ben 9 nov. 2017 02:53   

Hi,

i'm using Indesign CC and acrobat  pro dc to create tagged pdf and i meet a  lot of difficulties with the reflow of my documents.

i just give you an exemple where the color doesn't change. But i could give you many examples of bad reflow despite a good construction of my document for tagged pdf (i think).

1) here is an example of an  indesign doc ready to be tagged

2 )Here is the acrobat version with accessibility options checked. The colors do not match correctly (text should be yellow).

3) and the reflowed version. The color of the text is not the selected one (text should be yellow):

And i could make a lot of exemple with bad reflows.

Do you have a solution for this exemple or do you have a guideline in order to have a good reflow via indesign?

Thank you for your help

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    Correct answer hammer0909

    Hi Lepote,

    Reflow in general is for low vision users. I just don't think that Acrobat is the tool that is preferred for actual reading. I can't name any tools specifically off-hand, but there are many tools within the blind and low vision community that are used besides Acrobat. It is important that the content flows in the correct order.

    For low vision users, the tags themselves really aren't used unless they're using read aloud software such as JAWS, NVDA, Window Eyes, etc. Tags are not actually used to reflow the content of a PDF. Reflow is a different order and is not mutually exclusive to tag order.

    Here's a video that I created for my accessibility course on Lynda.com that might clear things up for you.

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    hammer0909
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    November 22, 2017

    Hi Lepote,

    Reflow in general is for low vision users. I just don't think that Acrobat is the tool that is preferred for actual reading. I can't name any tools specifically off-hand, but there are many tools within the blind and low vision community that are used besides Acrobat. It is important that the content flows in the correct order.

    For low vision users, the tags themselves really aren't used unless they're using read aloud software such as JAWS, NVDA, Window Eyes, etc. Tags are not actually used to reflow the content of a PDF. Reflow is a different order and is not mutually exclusive to tag order.

    Here's a video that I created for my accessibility course on Lynda.com that might clear things up for you.

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    E-BULLITIONAuthor
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    November 28, 2017

    Hi Chad,

    thanks for your answer.

    I will do my best but indeed, the reflow won't be correct.

    hammer0909
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    November 22, 2017

    I’m a bit confused when you say the text isn’t yellow. It appears to be yellow in your screen shots. The exported PDF should look the same as the InDesign file and if it doesn’t then we need to look at the InDesign file or the export settings.

    Regarding the reflow... The Reflow function in Acrobat is a testing tool to check the general behavior of reflowing text. Low vision users are not likely to use Acrobat for this purpose and will likely use some other tool. So I wouldn’t focus too hard on the appearance. I typically use reflow to test the order that objects are in when they reflow.

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    E-BULLITIONAuthor
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    November 22, 2017

    Hello CHad,

    the text on the green background is red? shouldn't it be yellow.

    Maybe i have some gaps in accessibility and misunderstood something.

    Ok for the reflow, i thought it was for low vision user. Do you have a ressource which explains how they use their tools? and which tool they use?

    Do you think that that tagged pdf is useful for low visual user? or do they only need a "normal pdf"?

    Mike Witherell
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    November 22, 2017

    Did you restart Acrobat and test? (Just wild guessing with you!)

    Mike Witherell
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    E-BULLITIONAuthor
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    November 22, 2017

    hello,

    i restarted and tried on mac and pc. it doesn't change

    Mike Witherell
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    November 21, 2017

    Acrobat > Preferences > Accessibility

              Document Colors Options

                        UNcheck "Only change the color of black text or line art."

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    E-BULLITIONAuthor
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    November 22, 2017

    Hi Michael,

    thank you for your answer.

    I unchecked "Only change the color of black text or line art." but it still reflows badly

    Here is the version without reflow (background still not red and text not yellow)

    And here is the reflowed version and the bottom text disapear...( highlight)

    I didn't find an adapted solution for the moment

    Thank you

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