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Invoking Photoshop CS5 from Lightroom 4 asks for Camera Raw Plug-in 7.0

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March 6, 2012
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I have just downloaded and installed Adobe Lightroom 4.0. When I try to invoke "Photo / Edit in Photoshop CS 5.1" I get the warning "This version of Lightroom may require the Photoshop Camera Raw plug-in version 7.0 for full compatibility. Please update the camera raw plug-in using the update tool available in the Photoshop help menu". However, the update function in Photoshop CS5.1 says that there are no updates available and searching adobe.com I can find no references to Camera Raw plug-in 7.0. What is one to do? Thanks.

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Correct answer Ryan Smith Photography

Everyone acts like this is some big deal. Just select render using Lightroom and don't show this dialog anymore. Doesn't that fix the problem? When you upgrade to CS6 you won't have this problem, it's always been this way.

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Bryan Smith

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Here is what I am using and it seems to be working for me. LR4, PS5, ACR 6.6. I tried it 3 times using the .NEF file. Once making a variety of adjustments, picking edit in PS, clicked open anyway and all adjustments showed up in PS. Tried another with no adjustments and it opened with no adjustments, and a third with heavy vibrance and it showed up fine in PS. Camera is a Nikon D2X. So I don't know, am I missing something, because it all looks good here.

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Bryan Smith

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Just to be clear, the 3 files I have open right now are all the .NEF as stated in the tab at the top of the window in CS5.

EDIT: When I saved the resulting .tiff from PS and went back to LR, the gallery view updated to show there were 2 files in a stack; the .NEF and the .tiff.

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KateMann

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Okay, I would like to get this straight.

I perform actions on the file in Lr and want to move the file, with my edits to PsCs5

I click on Edit in Photoshop and get the dialogue box.

I click on Open Anyway.

The file opens in Photoshop...

at this point I am assuming that the edits that I just performed in Lightroom are now rendered in the photoshop file that I'm looking at, which is still a dng.

Am I correct or not?

I edit the file in Photoshop and save it as a psd. It pops up in Lightroom.

I assume that the psd now has the cumulative work that I have done in both programs.

Am I correct still or not?

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Jeff Schewe

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KateMann wrote:
...at this point I am assuming that the edits that I just performed in Lightroom are now rendered in the photoshop file that I'm looking at, which is still a dng.
Am I correct or not?
I edit the file in Photoshop and save it as a psd. It pops up in Lightroom.
I assume that the psd now has the cumulative work that I have done in both programs.
Am I correct still or not?

If you've used PV 2012 in LR4 you need to download and install Camera Raw 6.7 RC1 in order to render the settings into Photoshop CS5/5.5. Then yes, you'll be getting the proper rendering from LR4.

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KateMann

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thank you Jeff! As I have upgraded to ACR 6.7 and use PV 2012 in Lr4, all is well.

The only problem would be if I wanted to tweak the dng in Photoshop, I would be dumped back to PV 2010, which defeats the entire purpose and so I wouldn't do that.

I don't see what all the fuss is about, unless the workflow doesn't work for Nikons.

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geb01

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Better idea than moving it: Provide a solution so its not a discussion.

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Ryan Smith Photography

Inspiring

You select "render in Lightroom", "don't show this dialog again", problem solved.

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Ryan Smith PhotographyCorrect answer

Inspiring

Everyone acts like this is some big deal. Just select render using Lightroom and don't show this dialog anymore. Doesn't that fix the problem? When you upgrade to CS6 you won't have this problem, it's always been this way.

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Dpatrickphoto

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RSmith you are right it's not exactly a big deal, but when you pay money for something you expect it to work properly yes? I prefer to edit the RAW file with lightroom adjustments, but thats just me...it worked just fine this way in LR3 so I'm not sure where "it's always been this way" comes from

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Ryan Smith Photography

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What are you talking about? It does work properly. It warns you that PS doesn't have this version of camera raw and lets you render in Lightroom. After that it won't bother you again. You guys are acting like something is wrong, it's working just as it's supposed to. Every Lightroom upgrade has had this issue, that is what I mean it's always been this way, it's been this way with every new version, I've been using it since the original beta. PS has to catch up on it's camera raw version, that is how Adobe makes you upgrade Photoshop if you really care that it has to render first in Lightroom. Basically if you don't like this you will have to upgrade to CS6, it's always been like this. Otherwise, just render in Lightroom, what's the big deal. When I go into photoshop I'm doing pixel editing not non-distructive anyway.

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Dpatrickphoto

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I'm having the same problem....I updated ACR to 6.7 and it's still giving me the error message to download a non-existant version of ACR 7.0 when exporting an image to CS5 for more editing...I tried clicking "Open anyway" and the image doesn't render properly in CS5 it renders without the LR4 settings. They definately have a compatibility issue....I'm editing Nikon D3s files .NEF....untill they fix it you can process the image in LR4 and then when the error pops up select "render in lighroom" it generates a TIFF (or whatever you have it set to) next to the raw file then you can edit that in CS5....not ideal by any means though, but it does retain LR4 edits

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KateMann

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How do you know that the file opens using "open anyway" without Lr4 settings? I did a test, underexposed in Lr4 until the photo was very dark and used the open anyway option. The resultant file in Ps4 reflected the changes exactly. So I am assuming that the 6.7 version bakes the Lr4 settings into the file. The only thing that is missing is the ability to retouch the raw file in Ps using the new develop paradigm.

In the beta I chose to export my files as tifs, which baked the Lr4 changes into the file, and opened them in Ps. The problem with this workaround was that the file didn't automatically show up in Lr4 beta, but had to be imported by syncing the folder.

This method will do for me until PsCs6 comes out, which will have version 7 of ACR.

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Dpatrickphoto

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I know it opens using "open anyway" because I tried it....I double checked just now to confirm....took an .NEF file in LR4 dropped the highlights and underexposed it, then went to send to PS...clicked "open anyway" and PS rendered the original raw NEF file. Normally, the lightroom changes would have been picked up by photoshop reading the accompanying XMP file that LR generates....this could be preferences differences. As I have mine set to edit the NEF with lightroom edits. Your method seems to be about the same as if you were to click "render in lightroom"

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tinaTS

Adobe Employee

Let me make sure I understand the issue. After you get the warning message, and you have ACR 6.7 installed, you DO have access to all the cameras, etc., in Photoshop that you have in Lightroom 4 - is that correct?

I realize the warning is annoying, but if I suspect that's the only real issue here - am I wrong?

thanks!

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geb01

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No, the warning is not the issue. "supported cameras" are not the problem.

I do initial processing on my images in LR, then using CMD E push them to Photoshop for further detailed editing as well as using the NIK Software selective tool while in Photoshop. I then Save/Close in Photoshop to send the image back to LR, in other words they are all tied together for processing an image.

When entering CMD E with LR 4 the error message says "7.0 may be required for full compatability." Should I ignore that warning and click "Open Anyway" because there really aren't any compatibility issues? It was my experience in the LR 2 to LR 3 upgrade there were such issues.

So how about a clear answer: Just click "Open Anyway" on the error message and everything will work great? When I first open an image in LR4, further edit in Photoshop CS5 with ACR 6.7 installed, Save and Close the image in Photoshop sending it back to LR 4 it will all work exactly as it did yesterday when I did that using LR 3, without error messages, loss of functionality, and no compatibility problems?

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arod_1

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Hello it works by cliking render using Lightroom,I believe it is using Lightroom 4's Camera Raw.Give it a try

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tinaTS

Adobe Employee

Lightroom doesn't use Camera Raw, but when you use Photoshop with Lightroom, you are notified if the version of Camera Raw you have installed is not the comparable version of Lightroom you are using. The version of Camera Raw that gives you the same camera support as Lightroom 4 is ACR 6.7, which is in Release Candidate status on Adobe Labs.

When you choose to Edit In Photoshop, this warning will appear. If you install ACR 6.7, it should stop displaying. Some people have found that it doesn't, and we're looking into this.

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geb01

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Again, I have installed ACR 6.7. It had no impact on the warning message as I described in my earlier posts. The problem is still there. I still not have not been called back from either of my disconnected calls to technical support, and I'm still amazed this is the identical problem I had when I upgraded to Lightroom 3 when it was first released. The issue is not one of which camera's are supported - Nikon has always been supported by both Lightroom and ACR (and come on, they are both the same engine whatever you call them. ACR in the CS6 beta lays out identiccal to LR 4 just as CS5 and LR 3 were essentially identical with a few variations on shades of gray and slider names).

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tinaTS

Adobe Employee

thanks everyone for your help. working...

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tinaTS

Adobe Employee

First, what file formats are you opening when you get this message? If not a camera file, what option are you choosing in the Edit in dialog box?

Second, you can download and install the release candidate version of Camera Raw 6.7 from Adobe Labs (labs.adobe.com) to get camera parity with Lightroom 4, and hopefully not get the message. If anyone has issues with this, please respond to this post.

thanks!

Tina

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Roland SleeAuthor

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Thanks Tina.

I am shotting RAW on a Nikon D3. I will download and install ACR 6.7 later today.

Thanks again.

Roland.

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jedgar8585

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After chatting with support for the past hour I finally got this reply from them: "this is a bug with Lightroom 4, and we have a report for this, I would like to escalate this case to next level to do further research." Hopefully this won't take long to resolve.

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geb01

Known Participant

Thanks for adding follow up. I too was on with support. They put me on hold for 10 minutes and then disconnected the call and haven't called back. Not stellar service. Glad to hear they at least know they have a problem. Though again, its the identical problem they had when they released LR 3, seems like they would have learned from the last time.

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