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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

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Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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Incredible_Raindrop15dc

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no me deja quitar el ruido en lightroom clasic

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mgroeteke

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Recently I had repeatedly the situation that Firefly generative remove in LR Classic does not want to delete an undesired object in a selected photo area, instead it is insisting to generate a new or displaced object of the same type, see screenshots as example. Could we get prompt inputs to direct Firefly generating more desirable results for image retouching in LRC?

first screenshot above, generated new object from original photo seen in the second screenshot below. Ingore the red dot, the whole area with cables and cable shield was selected for generation.

johnrellis

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@mgroeteke I had repeatedly the situation that Firefly generative remove in LR Classic does not want to delete an undesired object in a selected photo area, instead it is insisting to generate a new or displaced object of the same type … he whole area with cables and cable shield was selected for generation.

Using your screenshot, I was able to remove the cables and shield quickly:

A couple of tricks:

- Don’t use Detect Objects. It gets in the way often enough that I just always keep it disabled.

- Make sure you select the shadows of the cables and cable shield as well. Otherwise, it will try to generate a replacement matching the shadows.

- Select all the disconnected parts of the cable -- otherwise, it will try to generate a replacement that matches the unselected parts.

If this doesn’t help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original image.

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christianh97978082

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Until today, I didn’t have any concerns/issues with generative remove. It worked fine for me, and was way easier than opening Photoshop to edit things out of my photos.

It still works fine, but I think it would benefit having an option to enter a prompt. As an example, in some photos, I have someone that asked not to be included, since I post them on social media. I usually just exclude the photo or use generative remove to edit him out, but I got a photo where I would only like to replace the head or the person, without removing him completely. All I got so far is a headless man, but the trees look awesome, just not what I wanted.

Unless there’s something I missed somewhere.

Lightroom Classic 15.5.1 / Camera Raw 18.5.1
On PC Windows 11 25h2

johnrellis

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@christianh97978082 I got a photo where I would only like to replace the head or the person, without removing him completely. All I got so far is a headless man

Generative Remove is explicitly designed to replace the what we perceive as “objects” with what we perceive as “background”. And there are many complaints here when that fails, i.e. when Generative Remove replaces an “object” with a variant of the same kind of “object” (e.g. replacing cables with slightly different cables).

What you’re asking, replacing the head of a man with a different head, so as to preserve privacy, can be accomplished with the Photoshop Generative Fill command, which lets you provide text prompts to guide the replacement of selected areas in the photo.

Unfortunately, I haven’t seen any posts from Adobe indicating plans to add Generative Fill to Camera Raw.

However, you could try using LR’s File > Generate Using Firefly > Edit Photo to describe what you want using a text prompt. Unlike the Generative Fill command, where you select the area you want replaced, Generate Using Firefly doesn’t allow you to provide a selection, so your text prompt has to be more specific about what you want done. And the highest resolution you can get back from Generate Using Firefly is only 4K, which is significantly less than the full resolution from modern cameras.

I don’t have much experience with Generate Using Firefly, but here’s an example of replacing one face with another that looks pretty good:

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maiky-nisute

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**Even with the remove 100% removed birds are still visible as ghosts..**

While working on an image 2 birds were trowing the image out of balance. So i wanted to remove them. And so i did. And yes the remove is 100% . But it feels like its only set on 95% as the ghost of the birds is still visible. Is this what i pay for?

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@maiky-nisute But it feels like its only set on 95% as the ghost of the birds is still visible.

It may be that you applied Remove on top of an AI mask, in which case the AI Edit Status button will be yellow:

Click the button and do Update to recompute the mask.

If this doesn’t help, then attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unedited photo.

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dmiles1030

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Trying to remove green reflection in persons eye glasses but AI removes the entire eye. Is there a way to tell it to remove the green reflection instead of the entire object?

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@dmiles1030 Trying to remove green reflection in persons eye glasses but AI removes the entire eye.

Please attach here a full-resolution JPEG exported from the entire photo, so we can see in detail what the issue is and perhaps provide a way to solve it.

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Eager_Buttercupa540

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I removed several unwanted branches in this photo without any problem but the last branch does not disappear tottaly regardless where I put the opacity

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@Eager_Buttercupa540 I removed several unwanted branches in this photo without any problem but the last branch does not disappear tottaly regardless where I put the opacity

It may be that you applied Remove on top of an AI mask, in which case the AI Edit Status button will be yellow:

Click the button and do Update to recompute the mask.

If this doesn’t help, then attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unedited photo and a full-resolution screenshot (not a phone pic) of the entire LR window showing the removal that’s not working.

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Charismatic_neighbor108c

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I find the AI tools very powerful and I use them regularly, however there are weakeness. My comments are:

I use the tool to delate people. however, quite often it only replaces it with other people. Is there a way I can simple replace it with NO person?
I don’t have much success with reflection reduction and most of the I still have the reflection. When it does work its brilliant.
The removing people and and reflection is great. But the tool I would use the most is a single button hat identifies and removs of powerlines. I

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Radiant_Dazzle4003

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This action has never worked for me. I turn off generative fill and it still places random objects in that space. I have tried clone and bandaid as well. Nothing!

All I want to do is remove an object like I did before the addition of AI.

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Sonia_Eitz9079

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Good day

I would really love it if the team could look into a wierd thing that the Generative AI does sometimes in lightroom Classic. It creates unnecessary textures or colours. For instance when removing an object from a white wall. It removes the object but leaves behind strange textures and colours. almost like a “tie-die” look. And on the face, when trying to remove texture or wrinkles, it creates worse texture and wrinkles at times. perhaps it can be taught to always smooth when dealing with the face instead of creating crazy textures. Thank you so much

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mattophoto

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My classic version now seems to default to “remove” (nobody wants) instead of “generative remove” (everybody wants). Can you switch it back?

johnrellis

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@mattophoto, normally Remove remembers the settings you used for the last remove you performed:

If that’s not happening for you, restart your computer. If the problem persists, try resetting LR's preferences:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

LR sometimes soils its preferences file, and resetting it can fix all sorts of wonky behavior. That article explains how to restore the old preferences if resetting doesn't help.

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