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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

App version
System details
Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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R.Fotofilm

Participant

Kannste in Tonne werfen ,sorry ,aber was nicht funktioniert braucht kein Mensch.

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JensLuckingPhotography

Participant

Another simple task with a terrible outcome. Shot of car on highway, trying to remove car behind. Car behind is gone but master car has been altered to look like a car crash or a Ferrari Luce. Miserable execution. What happened to the I in AI?

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Felix+Keil

Participant

I’m having a problem with Generative Removal when I select multiple objects at the same time.
In the “Before” image, all the elements I wanted to remove are marked in red: several fence lines and the sign on the right side of the image. As far as I could tell, the selection was cleanly defined and clearly visible. However, the result shows that the removal didn’t work reliably. Some sections of the fence weren’t removed cleanly, especially near the horse, and the sign didn’t disappear properly either. In some cases, it looks as though the selected areas simply vanish without the selected object actually being removed correctly. I fully understand that a large selection takes more time, and I have no problem with that. What’s really frustrating, though, is when the process takes a long time, but the result is unusable afterward, and I have to repeat the same step multiple times until it might finally work. It would be very helpful if Generative Removal worked more reliably when multiple areas are selected at once.

johnrellis

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@Celestial_Solace06db, Generative Remove often struggles with removing long skinny objects. A few things that often can make it more reliable:

1. Remove one or a couple lines at a time.

2. With the Remove brush selected, click at one end of the line and shift-click at the other -- that will make a straight selection without having to drag the brush all the way across.

3. Content-Aware Remove is sometimes more reliable at removing lines. (Select Mode: Remove and uncheck Use Generative AI.)

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sojsoj

Participating Frequently

in fact two issues: 1/ people removal leaving light colored shadows. 2/ subsequently - these shadows can’t be removed with any additional tool - heal, stamp, etc.. looks like these tools just take original photo content, and can’t be switched to work on portion of already altered image. so unless you run Photoshop you can’t get rid of these in Lightroom Classic.

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sojsoj

Participating Frequently

for reference the original image

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sojsoj

Participating Frequently

interesting finding - problem with people removal / leaving these shadows is only happening on HDR compound photo (from 3x bracketed shots). while if I remove people in the original images (before processing HDR) - the people removal tool works as expected.

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chloew123456789

Participant

Why does it have such a hard time with objects intruding from out of frame? It consistently fails to remove objects that originate out of frame.

Here’s the before image.

And here is the after image:

It mangled the skateboard, but it didn’t do anything useful.

johnrellis

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@chloew123456789 It consistently fails to remove objects that originate out of frame.

Generative Remove did a good job on your screenshot.

Is the image cropped? The current version of Generative Remove usually handles cropped images well, but sometimes you’ll get better results if you turn off the crop, do the Remove, then recrop.

If that doesn’t help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original.

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chloew123456789

Participant

Uncropping it worked.I’ll have to pay attention going forward to see if that is root of the problem.

cartergray23456

Participating Frequently

The new Generative Remove improvements look great. I'll test them on a few tricky edits and share feedback with my app version, system details, and sample images. Thanks for continuing to improve the tool!

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Jennifer37653548p87w

Participant

The generative AI remove function doesn’t work at all for me. It just recreates another version of the item I’m trying to remove. I’ve tried several times and checked all the variations offered… None are usable. My Samsung cell phone photo editing app does a much better job.

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hchandless

Known Participant

Make sure you go over the edges of the area and include any shadow it might be making. If you try to be exact sometimes that can work against you. If you don’t include the shadow it will put it back almost every time.

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Jennifer37653548p87w

Participant

Thanks. Going wider helped, but I still had a photo where the edge of a blue shirt showing on the corner of a woman’s white shirt could not be removed with the AI tool. I finally used the clone tool which worked OK,.

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Andreas34451019b8lu

Participant

Hey there! So, I’ve been having a few hiccups with the tool on my Mac Silicon. It seems to be a bit buggy at times. I mean, I’m sure it should be smarter, having optional functions. I just want to make a simple change, like removing a shadow or having a different one. But when I replace something like this - OMG it takes ages until the AI understands that I only want to have a different shadow. Especially in portraits, it can sometimes look a bit too artificial. Today I did try to copy settings from one picture to the next which also changed colors in the new pictures, I did try two times checked if I made mistake, nope this is a bug. I think the idea is great, but the tool should be much smarter I remember when it was new I could replace faces of children in street photos for publishing on Instagram. The tool definitely became more inflexible, less smart…

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DavidH77

Known Participant

Someone from Adobe please explain the guidelines to us. I want to understand what the guidelines are in this case. I’m not being sarcastic or anything here. I want someone from Adobe explain what exactly the issue is with all these photos that have been posted here where LR refused to work as intended.

My best bet is that the legal department wrote the guidelines to keep the company safe while the method underneath is an obviously dysfunctional AI system flagging photos wrong left and right.