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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
June 13, 2025

Overall it works pretty well but I am confounded by why it will not remove power lines in this photo, which I'd think are one of the most obvious and straightforward cases. Instead, it generates a white line to replace the black line, even on the flat blue sky. None of the variations actually removed the line… I've tried this four times, and tried every variation each time. 

 

Also, during the refine step, it does something absolutely whacky to the colors & contrast of the image… I didn't change the settings for the image, LR did it. The normal look of the photo returned after I hit Generate.

johnrellis
Legend
June 13, 2025

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The white ghost of a powerline likely indicates you applied Remove on top of an AI mask (e.g. Sky). Do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask and get rid of the ghost.

 

Participating Frequently
June 11, 2025

I use Lightroom Classic to edit all my photos. the remove tool is great but sometimes it just doesnt work the way it should. There was a hand in the edge of my photo that needed to remove and it will only take it to a shadow of the hand. now I have to open it in Photoshop to edit it out and that is time consuming. just thought id give feedback in case others are havign this issue and so it can get fixed. 

johnrellis
Legend
June 11, 2025

@CapturingTimePhotography: "There was a hand in the edge of my photo that needed to remove and it will only take it to a shadow of the hand."

 

1. Uncheck Detect Objects before brushing a selection -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participating Frequently
June 11, 2025

I dont use detect object because it doesnt work. I already do the things the article says. sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. I can not upload the image for Privacy reasons for my client.

 

Virginia Photo
Participating Frequently
June 11, 2025

Hi Adobe Community and geeks, 

Please Help!! Since two days I´ve got this message from the AI (AI Elimination has fail...), not beeng able to remove things that before were no problems. I´ve seen I´m not the only one getting this message. 

What is going on?

Images attached

 

Uppdate: afer trying four times it works, luck?

johnrellis
Legend
June 11, 2025

@Virginia Photo: "Generative removal failed. We detected a problem with your results. Please check our guidelines and try again."


To see the "guidelines", click the miniscule "?" icon in the upper-right corner of the Remove panel and then click Generative AI User Guidelines.

 

Adobe's AI is a repressed Victorian and often faints at the slightest hint of skin or small children. In geek speak, it has a high false-positive rate for adult and child p o r n (not allowed to type that in the forum), making it unsuitable for many kinds of innocuous professional use.

Virginia Photo
Participating Frequently
June 12, 2025
Hello John,

Very well then, if that the case great, but there is a lot to improve
then....

Thank you very much for your answer.

Virginia
Saycheez
Participant
June 8, 2025

There needs to be an easy way to remove power lines in Lightroom Classic. Generative Remove often does not seem to recognize black lines across the sky and won't remove them. 

johnrellis
Legend
June 9, 2025

@Saycheez: "Generative Remove often does not seem to recognize black lines across the sky and won't remove them."

 

1. Uncheck Detect Objects before brushing a selection -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
June 8, 2025

Please let us feather the selection like in photoshop.
Idk why opactiy made it in when the goal of this to replace something in the general image but here we are.

Participant
June 8, 2025

Been using the remove tool and all of a sudden got error messge and then saying check guidelines. What guidelines?

johnrellis
Legend
June 8, 2025

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@johnh8833050: "Been using the remove tool and all of a sudden got error messge and then saying check guidelines. What guidelines?"

 

Click the miniscule ? icon and then click Generative AI User Guidelines:

 

Adobe's AI has a Victorian sensibility and oten faints at the slightest hint of skin or small children. In geek speak, it has a high false-positive rate for adult and child p o r n (not allowed to type that in the forum), making it unsuitable for many kinds of innocuous professional use.

 

alexandrephotog
Known Participant
June 7, 2025

Generative remove has a lot of difficulty with teeth!

johnrellis
Legend
June 7, 2025

@alexandrephotog: "Generative remove has a lot of difficulty with teeth!"

 

Are you trying to remove teeth? What would you like to replace them with? Please post before and after full-resolution screenshots (not phone pics) of the entire LR window showing the difficulty you're having. 

alexandrephotog
Known Participant
June 8, 2025

 

It's not impossible, it took me around 15 tryes to get it to a better place.

 

1- original picture, zoomed at 100%

2- B&W conversion with contrast, we can see the black spot that is a LED light.

3-try to remove the black spot.

4-meh results for around 15 times.

 

And it's probably a hard scenario, lot of contrats, blurry, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

Participant
June 7, 2025

I tried to remove a license plate, and I'm not sure what I was expected, but I got some crazy patterns that looked like LR was trying to show off a Jetsons computer where the license plate was. I'm going to install photoshop again but thought it would be easier with just straight lightroom.

 

(Modifying exposure, lights, blacks, etc., helps, but still helps identify the last three digits of this car. No need for the Berkeley Unix + Unix-sticker obsessive to get harassed for his cool car choices!)

johnrellis
Legend
June 7, 2025

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@Tommy York: "I tried to remove a license plate, and I'm not sure what I was expected, but I got some crazy patterns"

 

Make sure you select every bit of the license plate's frame as well as any shadows it casts. Otherwise, Remove will try to generate a replacement that it thinks best matches the unselected bits.

 

For example:

 

 

 

 

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

johnrellis
Legend
June 7, 2025

Also, I just noticed in my example that you can see a reflection of the license plate on the wet pavement. Often Remove will notice unselected reflections and try to generate an object that would cast the reflection, so you need to select the reflection as well. But in this case, Remove didn't notice (you can remove the reflection with a second Remove).

Participant
June 7, 2025

The new gen. removal spot, I had two of the same pictures. The first picture it removed the objects. On the sencond pictures I tried removing the same objects and it didn't work. 

johnrellis
Legend
June 7, 2025

@dryna_2693: "The new gen. removal spot, I had two of the same pictures. The first picture it removed the objects. On the sencond pictures I tried removing the same objects and it didn't work."

 

Most likely, there was a subtle difference between the two photos and what you were selecting.  Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original problem photo (not a screenshot) and call out what you're trying to remove. With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

C.Cella
Inspiring
June 7, 2025

So many users are having problems because Genrative Remove was never explained properly.

A few lines of explanation and/or a  "Find out more" link in LrC  (as I propseed months ago) would have sufficed to shed light on how to use this feature .

Was NOT done.

 

The report Variation button is no doubt ignored as there is no "Replaces with similar instead of Removing" case (the most common) giving the impression we can only flag for nudity or violence.

 

@johnrellis is singlehandedly doing the tech support, case by case which should earn him a salary...or at least a new badge "Legendary Remove Guide" 😉

 

Meanwhile photoshop public beta offers a model of Remove that does not replace.

That model can't come soon enough in LrC.

 

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Known Participant
June 5, 2025

I find that Generative Remove struggles with noisy images. The replaced pixels don't replicate the noise pattern, leaving me with a spot that looks denoised.

johnrellis
Legend
June 5, 2025

@t.linn: "I find that Generative Remove struggles with noisy images. The replaced pixels don't replicate the noise pattern, leaving me with a spot that looks denoised."

 

Many have observed here that the replacements made by Generative Remove sometimes don't match the photo's tone or noise. To get better matches, these techniques sometimes help:

1. Adobe recommends applying Denoise before Remove. This can reduce the noise, making it more likely the replacement will match.

2. The replacement patch supplied by Adobe Firefly has a maximum size of 2048 x 2048 pixels. If the selected area in the photo is larger than that, then the replacement patch gets upscaled (and blurry). Try removing smaller selections if possible.

3. Conversely, try making a larger selection, even including the entire background. Upscaling of the replacement sometimes won't be noticeable then.

4. Sometimes there's a distinctly visible boundary where the tone or noise don't match. You can often use the heal tool around the boundary to get better feathering and make it less noticeable -- apply Heal in small brush strokes. Or use a Brush mask with maximum feathering, dropping local Texture, Clarity, and Sharpness to their minimum values. Sometimes, making a very raggedy selection around the object makes the boundary less noticeable.

5. For grain/noise in particular, see this post for how to ameliorate the problem by adding the grain back or reducing the grain:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic-amp-lr-eco/m-p/14917497#M382464