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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

App version
System details
Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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cartergray23456

Participating Frequently

The new Generative Remove improvements look great. I'll test them on a few tricky edits and share feedback with my app version, system details, and sample images. Thanks for continuing to improve the tool!

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Jennifer37653548p87w

Participant

The generative AI remove function doesn’t work at all for me. It just recreates another version of the item I’m trying to remove. I’ve tried several times and checked all the variations offered… None are usable. My Samsung cell phone photo editing app does a much better job.

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hchandless

Known Participant

Make sure you go over the edges of the area and include any shadow it might be making. If you try to be exact sometimes that can work against you. If you don’t include the shadow it will put it back almost every time.

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Jennifer37653548p87w

Participant

Thanks. Going wider helped, but I still had a photo where the edge of a blue shirt showing on the corner of a woman’s white shirt could not be removed with the AI tool. I finally used the clone tool which worked OK,.

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Andreas34451019b8lu

Participant

Hey there! So, I’ve been having a few hiccups with the tool on my Mac Silicon. It seems to be a bit buggy at times. I mean, I’m sure it should be smarter, having optional functions. I just want to make a simple change, like removing a shadow or having a different one. But when I replace something like this - OMG it takes ages until the AI understands that I only want to have a different shadow. Especially in portraits, it can sometimes look a bit too artificial. Today I did try to copy settings from one picture to the next which also changed colors in the new pictures, I did try two times checked if I made mistake, nope this is a bug. I think the idea is great, but the tool should be much smarter I remember when it was new I could replace faces of children in street photos for publishing on Instagram. The tool definitely became more inflexible, less smart…

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DavidH77

Known Participant

Someone from Adobe please explain the guidelines to us. I want to understand what the guidelines are in this case. I’m not being sarcastic or anything here. I want someone from Adobe explain what exactly the issue is with all these photos that have been posted here where LR refused to work as intended.

My best bet is that the legal department wrote the guidelines to keep the company safe while the method underneath is an obviously dysfunctional AI system flagging photos wrong left and right.

johnrellis

Legend

The “guidelines” are actually part of the license, hard rules you must follow or else risk losing your account:

https://www.adobe.com/legal/licenses-terms/adobe-gen-ai-user-guidelines.html

The high false-positive rate of Adobe’s filter is clearly intended to protect them at the expense of their customers.

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hchandless

Known Participant

However you can do the exact same removal in Photoshop and it won’t kick back an error, so I’m not buying the legal aspect.

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emvaningen

Participant

See the attached screenshot

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DavidH77

Known Participant

It’s been 2 years now and this stuff keeps happening. At this point the so called guidelines are just an excuse for the poorly working system in place that you refuse to fix. It is clearly broken. On top of it, it is gaslighting the user suggesting they did something ethically wrong. It is not 'my result'.

I’m getting tired of the replacement of humans and common sense by poorly working automated systems to make decisions about artwork. Any human looking at this photo and the marked area for 2 seconds would understand.

bellevue scott

Inspiring

This hit home with me. I sometimes post comments like this, and I always try to be polite, but I realize my comments might come off as rude or attacking the Adobe experts/VIPs etc. But that’s not the case at all. Some of the things I’m seeing in PS and LRC are just slop, more precisely AI slop, and it needs to be said, and at least internally in Adobe needs to be recognized.

johnrellis

Legend

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Edward Weston wouldn’t have been able to use LR Generative AI:

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DavidH77

Known Participant

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Blancagiacoman

Participant

When I update my Lightroom Classic, the removal option leave a silhouette of the removed person, its frustrating, what can I do.

johnrellis

Legend

Does this post help?

If not, please post a full-resolution screenshot of the entire LR window in Develop, showing the silhoutettes and the Develop panels on the right.

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anthony38328815ktv0

Participant

All three removal options leave a silhouette of the removed person from a landscape image. Absolutely useless.

johnrellis

Legend

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Ghosts or silhouettes of removed objects typical result from applying remove on top of an AI mask. Is the Ai Edit Status button in the upper-right yellow? If so, click it and do Update. That will recompute the mask to include the bits you removed:

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Melina5C8D

Inspiring

Hi Adobe team,

I'm experiencing a significant performance regression with Generative Remove on my Intel iMac after updating to Lightroom Classic 15.4.1.

System

Lightroom Classic 15.4.1
macOS 26.5.2
Intel Core i5 iMac
AMD Radeon Pro 5300 (4GB VRAM)
72GB RAM

Generative Remove now takes 4+ minutes to remove a tiny skin blemish. The standard Remove tool works normally.

I've completed extensive troubleshooting, including:

New catalogue
Existing catalogue
Catalogue on internal SSD
RAWs on external HDD
Purged Camera Raw cache
Optimised catalogue
GPU on and off
Restarted Lightroom and the Mac

The key finding is that I installed Lightroom Classic 15.3.1 on the same iMac and repeated the same test using the same RAW file. Generative Remove is significantly faster in 15.3.1 than in 15.4.1.

I have been using Generative Remove since the beta and it worked well on this machine until recently, so this appears to be a regression rather than a hardware limitation.

I'm happy to provide System Info, screen recordings or sample RAW files if they would help.

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