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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

App version
System details
Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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CaroleSD

Participating Frequently

Where are the three options? Generative remove still has some flaws in removing. The removed part leaves a 'shadow' sometimes.

johnrellis

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@CaroleSD: "Where are the three options?"

There are four flavors (modes) of Remove:

Clone:

Heal:

Content-Aware Remove:

Generative AI Remove:

johnrellis

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@CaroleSD: "The removed part leaves a 'shadow' sometimes."

There are several possible causes of that:

1. After clicking Remove, check that the Opacity slider is 100 -- LR infrequently changes it to something else.

2. If you applied Remove on top of an AI mask (e.g. Sky or Subject mask), do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask.

There are other possible causes, but to help with those, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot).

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Newbie2025

Participant

Hello, I was using the Remove Tool with no issues then it stopped working. Could I have clicked a wrong button that disabled that feature?

Thanks!

johnrellis

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@Newbie2025: "I was using the Remove Tool with no issues then it stopped working."

Change the Opacity slider to 100:

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umlautnord

Inspiring

I'm so frustrated that gen AI remove is still just terrible sometimes at even vaguely matching the surrounding background pattern. Things like, say, a sky?

I know there are workarounds—I've discussed them with folks previously in this thread. But it just seems like such a basic need/requirement for the feature. Local AI-based remove can do it. Please, please get generative AI on board. It's one of the biggest problems with the feature for me in LrC/D/etc.

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Emre.O

Participant

The ''Remove'' tool sometimes just doesn't remove. It replaces the image with some other genarated creepy stuff.. But i only want to ''Remove'' the stuff, not to replace it with something weird!

johnrellis

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@Emre.O: "It replaces the image with some other genarated creepy stuff."

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Hal35668775dy1a

Participant

This does not work as well as photoshop? why?

johnrellis

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@Hal35668775dy1a: "This does not work as well as photoshop? why?" Generative Remove in LR uses the same algorithm as in Photoshop. Try unchecking Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't always work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot) and call out what's not working in LR but works in PS. With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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maguentert

Known Participant

just made a mess of the attached photo. LR classic.

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Heera Singh

Participant

my ai erase not working please start this other wise i stop your cloud payment

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donbanks

Participant

LR Classic R 14.1.1 Camera Raw 17.1. MacOS 14.6.1, Apple M1 Max, 64GB

I'm attempting to replace an electrical box on a wall that intrudes into the rectangle for the graffitee that is the subject of the image. What I get with generative AI is new material with people and objects that aren't in ant of the photos in my library. I also get partial replacements and replacement with other objects in the image. Since the box is surrounded by a stucco wall, I would have expected that it would use this adjacent area to remove the object. In no iteration was the replacement anywhere close to replacng the box with anything closely resembling the surrounding wall. Totally useless for this photo in any case.

johnrellis

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@donbanks: "I'm attempting to replace an electrical box on a wall that intrudes into the rectangle for the graffitee that is the subject of the image."

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects, but there's no guarantee obviously with your photo.

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Mathias23592962evfe

Participant

Hello.

This is the original photo.

I wanted to remove the person in the foreground, but I got this:

I made several attempts. Once there was a road construction worker, once a
child bending down, and finally this very object. What happened there?

Best regards

M. Dietrich

Leandro_Barreto

Participating Frequently

Remover objetos por IA deveria de fato remover objetos. Eu recebo muito resultado ruim, incluindo objetos que não deveriam estar ali. Se o objetivo é remover, não deveria incluir. Removendo libros de uma prateleira recebi imagem colocando LIXO, uma lata de lixo e uma torre de papel amassado no lugar. No Photoshop funciona melhor quando eu consigo descrever com prompt simples: "remove with content aware". É mágico! Só que no LR é uma tristeza. São muitas tentativas. Tantas que me questiono se essa é uma ferramenta útil no LightRoom, porque só me fez perder MUITO tempo de trabalho. Triste e frustrante.

johnrellis

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@Leandro_Barreto: "I question whether this is a useful tool in LightRoom, because it only made me waste A LOT of work time."

There are many dozens of examples posted in this thread showing it usually works quite well. But as with any AI tool, there are certainly some instances where it doesn't. Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from a problem unmodified original photo (not a screenshot) and call out what you're trying to remove.

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Mathias23592962evfe

Participant

Comlete nonsense!

There is nothing removed. The marked object is replaced by some other object. Pure phantasy!

johnrellis

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@Mathias23592962evfe: "The marked object is replaced by some other object."

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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john_2203

Participant

AI has been working perfect up to this point. Some great improvements have happen most recently. Thanks!

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