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August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
December 15, 2024

LR AI seems smarter than PS's AI, I especially like the different versions.  But they are still a bit crude in what they replace people of things with.  Why cant it understand that when you want to remove people the background would be what should appear? And if I am removing Xmas deco, why can't it understand not to replace it with more xmas deco?

johnrellis
Legend
December 15, 2024

@hannahfcl: "I simply want whatever is selected to be removed."

@SibyA: "when you want to remove people the background would be what should appear? And if I am removing Xmas deco, why can't it understand not to replace it with more xmas deco?"

 

See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every one of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
December 15, 2024

When using generative AI fill often times I simply want whatever is selected to be removed. Especially if there's no prompt, or it's a simple wall with one distracting element.

Participant
December 14, 2024

The AI process is leaving a ghost immage??  I was using it on a lamp post and an electrical post, the dark immage was taken away the the same outline of the two post was left as a ghost immage.  Any ideas as to why this is happening.

johnrellis
Legend
December 14, 2024

@spiderbobr: "The AI process is leaving a ghost immage??  I was using it on a lamp post and an electrical post, the dark immage was taken away the the same outline of the two post was left as a ghost immage.  Any ideas as to why this is happening."

 

Two possibilities:

 

1. After clicking the Remove button, check that the Opacity slider is 100. Many have reported it sometimes gets set to less than 100.

 

2. You've applied Remove on top of an AI mask (e.g. a Sky mask). Do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask.

Participating Frequently
December 18, 2024

This did not work. 

Participant
December 14, 2024

I have been using this feature quite a bit to remove fly-aways from people's hair during outdoor sessions. 

I noticed a few things after my initial selection of the section of the head I am trying to fix. When it analyzes the selection, sometimes it's accurate, but more often than not, it selects too much or not enough. Once I do have a selection that I like and generate to remove - most of the selections have more crazy looking fly-aways than it being smooth. (my background has a heavy bokeh). I typically have to generate again or layer the generative remove over top the first removal to get a result that looks good and realistic. 

johnrellis
Legend
December 14, 2024

@ApexGD: "...remove fly-aways from people's hair during outdoor sessions.  ... but more often than not, it selects too much or not enough."

 

It sounds like you have the Detect Objects option selected?  It often doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and near the photo edges. You might find it more effective to unselect it and manually make the selection.

 

Also, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail.

Participant
December 14, 2024

Preferisco non utilizzarla, tante volte peggiora l' immagine. Crea ombre o artefatti. Molto rraramete funzione bane e solo per piccoli dettagli. Peggio del classico "rimuovi". Sarrebbe meglio che non ci fosse.

johnrellis
Legend
December 14, 2024

@Maurizio Santi: "many times it worsens the image. It creates shadows or artifacts. Very rarely a bane function and only for small details. Worse than the classic "remove". 

 

1. Uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every one of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
December 14, 2024

hello, i am a new lightroom user. i use a mac mini m4pro and i just downloaded the lightroom 14.1 version. i am trying to use generative removal but the system tells me to check my internet connection which works fine at 50 mbps. what should i do?

johnrellis
Legend
December 14, 2024

@turcotravel: "i am trying to use generative removal but the system tells me to check my internet connection which works fine at 50 mbps. what should i do?"

 

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.

- On Mac, try relaunching the Finder -- start Finder, click the Finder menu, and do Quit Finder. Someone reported that this solved this problem for him.

To help others, please let us know which of these work and which don't.

Participating Frequently
December 13, 2024

Doesn't remove the lightpole and adds 'junk'.

 

johnrellis
Legend
December 13, 2024

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@sherwood77: "Doesn't remove the lightpole and adds 'junk'.

 

Generative Remove quickly removed the pole in my LR 14.1. I did it in two pieces (see below). 

 

1. Make sure to uncheck Detect Objects -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

 

2. If you make a selection approximately as shown below, does it work better?

 

 

jerryy20523319
Participant
December 13, 2024

Hi,

While I love the AI feature, it is wonky. When I want to remove something, I want it comletely removed and not replaced with an alien.  This is okay but am waiting for the next versions.  It is still more work then it needs to be.

johnrellis
Legend
December 13, 2024

@jerryy20523319: "it is wonky. When I want to remove something, I want it completely removed and not replaced with an alien."

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every one of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

jerryy20523319
Participant
December 13, 2024
Thanks. This is a good start to resolution.
I’ll keep you posted On my progress.

Jerry
Participant
December 12, 2024

Hello. I've read some of the contributions - particularly the one where the 'removal' of a human is replaced not removed. When I highlight someone to be removed, it is replaced with something that is not even human.:

How can I remove and not replace? I do not see an option. I am using Lightroom Classic release 14.1 and build 202412062302-d2b56666

 

Participant
December 12, 2024

to be clear, that 'thing' is the replacement.

Inspiring
December 12, 2024

What are the best ways to speed this up? Selecting the first couple of spots works, then it starts lagging massively, showing the little rotating circle until you can select the next area. Until this has finished rotating, there's no chance of doing anything. Also, the processing is significantly slower than in Photoshop. Almost twice as slow. I haven't touched it again after 10 minutes.

 

 Windows 10, 2xXeon something, 128 GB RAM, Quadro M5000, most recent version (can't check atm). This was slow before, but now it's also laggy

johnrellis
Legend
December 12, 2024

@Corniger: "What are the best ways to speed this up?"

 

Which mode of the Remove tool are you using?  Clone, Heal, Remove without Generative Remove selected (Content Aware), or Remove with Generative Remove selected?

Inspiring
December 13, 2024

Remove with Gen AI selected, Detect Objects not selected. Use GPU set to auto.