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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
December 8, 2024

Hi Rick

I keep trying to remove a post and a person within a simple background (e.g. post with clear blue sky background or person on a bridge) yet the removed object remains as a ghost image.

 

I read: "If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu. ""

This is again difficult to find, but when i eventually did, I updated that AI settings on that photo but the problem persists. It is clear I am getting it wrong because so often IA remove works brilliantly, yet at other times it suubbornly gives me a ghost like object. 

 

Ive been scouring this forum but so far nothing that sticks out. But have followed up on other leads - so learning overaal but the ghost ing issue defies all my attempts till now 

 

Henri

 

johnrellis
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December 8, 2024

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@henke51366242: "I keep trying to remove a post and a person within a simple background (e.g. post with clear blue sky background or person on a bridge) yet the removed object remains as a ghost image. ... I updated that AI settings on that photo but the problem persists." 

 

After clicking Remove, make sure the Opacity slider is set to 100:

 

Applying Remove on top of AI masking (e.g. a Sky mask, corrected by doing Update AI Settings) and Opacity sliders set to less than 100 are the primary causes of ghost images. But if this doesn't help, then rather than play twenty questions, share the original photo and your develop settings here. In Library, select the photo and do the menu command Metadata > Save Metadata To File. Then upload photo file (and if it's raw, its .xmp sidecar file) to Wetransfer, Dropbox, Google Drive, or other free service and post the sharing link here.

Participant
December 8, 2024

Unfortunately it stopped working for me after updates. Not removing any objects, never. I tried multiple photos, deleting small things, results are useless now. It wasn't the case in the past. It seems to be latest updates issue.

johnrellis
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December 8, 2024

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@Anna35287185zjd4: "it stopped working for me after updates. Not removing any objects, never. I tried multiple photos, deleting small things, results are useless now. It wasn't the case in the past."

 

After clicking Remove, make sure the Opacity slider is set to 100:

 

Many people have reported that the updates changed their Opacity sliders.

Participant
December 7, 2024

Why is Lightroom telling me that I'm not conected to the internet when I definately am conected?

This is preventing me from useing generative AI

I have just updated the app. I am running a M1 Mac Studio

johnrellis
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December 7, 2024

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@Neil Waving: "Why is Lightroom telling me that I'm not conected to the internet when I definitely am connected?"

 

 

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

 

- Restart the computer.

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.

- Try relaunching the Finder -- start Finder, click the Finder menu, and do Quit Finder. Someone reported that this solved this problem for him.

Please let us know which of these work and which don't.

 

Participant
December 6, 2024

In LR Classic I find the generative AI remove tool rarely removes the object I select, but just changes its structure to be more cartoonish.

johnrellis
Legend
December 7, 2024

@mrlenz: "the generative AI remove tool rarely removes the object I select, but just changes its structure to be more cartoonish."

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
December 8, 2024

I had cropped already and did not realize it looked to original.  Started with original image and it worked better.

BK_2069
Known Participant
December 6, 2024

It's about 50/50 working as expected and the rest of the time putting additional random distracting elements in there...  if it's truly remove... why does it so frequently add in other random things vs. work to find ways to cleanly remove distracting objects....

Inspiring
December 6, 2024

Well because "removing something" is sort of a context dependent and subjective operation. That is why additional prompt is quite useful for such tool.

The result that you present is something that I would rather expect from a healing tool, though.

BK_2069
Known Participant
December 6, 2024

You're just wrong. "Remove" is "remove" and adding other random generated artifacts is just a bug.

Inspiring
December 6, 2024

In Lightroom Classic, there should be some sort of prompt to guide the AI generative remove.. I am trying to remove a person from a photo of an auditorium full of people and it continuously tries to generate someone else in that place.

johnrellis
Legend
December 6, 2024

@lukasradek: "In Lightroom Classic, there should be some sort of prompt to guide the AI generative remove.."

 

Photoshop has Generative Fill, which allows you to provide prompts. A couple others have requested here that LR offer something similar. Please add your constructive opinion and upvote this existing feature request:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-add-generative-fill/idi-p/13941532

 

"I am trying to remove a person from a photo of an auditorium full of people and it continuously tries to generate someone else in that place."

 

This is often possible with Remove but requires experience with Remove's rougher edges. See here for an example of removing a person from a crowded group of people:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/community/threads/removing-disconnected-objects-select-everything-then-subtract.50579/

 

This example trips over a misfeature in the Remove selection UI, which if it were fixed, would have made the example much easier to accomplish. If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), and I'll see how hard it is to use Remove. (This would provide more evidence either for Adobe to fix the Remove UI and/or for allowing generative-fill prompts.)

Participant
December 5, 2024

Funciona muy deficientemente. Continuamente me aparece el mensaje de que no hay conexión a Intenet cuando sí que está conectada y con muy buena señal.

johnrellis
Legend
December 5, 2024

@Jose GZ: "I keep getting the message that there is no Internet connection"

 

Please post a full-resolution screenshot (not a phone pic) of the entire error message -- depending on the error, there's probably a workaround.

Participant
December 6, 2024
Hoy he vuelto a intentarlo y ¡ya no me aparece ese error!

Gracias por vuestro soporte.

Saludos,
Jose
Participant
December 5, 2024

me marca error

Participant
December 4, 2024

Hi 

 

Generally it works absolutely perfectly. Amazing what a difference that makes.

 

Occasionally though it leaves weird 'blobs' but mostly it works as advertised

 

Many thanks team

 

Henri Eijkman

Brisbane

 

johnrellis
Legend
December 4, 2024

@henke51366242: "Occasionally though it leaves weird 'blobs' "

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
December 4, 2024

 

Until a week ago, the AI-powered object removal tool was excellent. It worked flawlessly and erased everything I requested with a high degree of accuracy. However, in the past week, the tool has become completely non-functional. It is unable to remove anything, even small and simple objects. Instead, it frequently creates a strange cloud or shadow in the background of the object or blurs it without completely removing it, leaving a 'ghostly' remnant. Is there an expected timeline for fixing this issue?

 

Thank you very much.

johnrellis
Legend
December 4, 2024

@Elyasaf_Rubinstein8068: "the tool has become completely non-functional. It is unable to remove anything, even small and simple objects. Instead, it frequently creates a strange cloud or shadow in the background of the object or blurs it without completely removing it, leaving a 'ghostly' remnant. "

 

Two typical causes of this:

 

1. The Opacity slider might be set to less than 100. (The slider only appears after clicking Remove.) Sometimes the user accidentally changes the slider, and sometimes LR appears to change it by itself.

 

2. Applying Remove on top of an AI mask, e.g. Sky. Do the menu command Settings > Update Ai Settings to recompute the mask.

 

If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.