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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
December 14, 2024

I have been using this feature quite a bit to remove fly-aways from people's hair during outdoor sessions. 

I noticed a few things after my initial selection of the section of the head I am trying to fix. When it analyzes the selection, sometimes it's accurate, but more often than not, it selects too much or not enough. Once I do have a selection that I like and generate to remove - most of the selections have more crazy looking fly-aways than it being smooth. (my background has a heavy bokeh). I typically have to generate again or layer the generative remove over top the first removal to get a result that looks good and realistic. 

johnrellis
Legend
December 14, 2024

@ApexGD: "...remove fly-aways from people's hair during outdoor sessions.  ... but more often than not, it selects too much or not enough."

 

It sounds like you have the Detect Objects option selected?  It often doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and near the photo edges. You might find it more effective to unselect it and manually make the selection.

 

Also, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail.

Participant
December 14, 2024

Preferisco non utilizzarla, tante volte peggiora l' immagine. Crea ombre o artefatti. Molto rraramete funzione bane e solo per piccoli dettagli. Peggio del classico "rimuovi". Sarrebbe meglio che non ci fosse.

johnrellis
Legend
December 14, 2024

@Maurizio Santi: "many times it worsens the image. It creates shadows or artifacts. Very rarely a bane function and only for small details. Worse than the classic "remove". 

 

1. Uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every one of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
December 14, 2024

hello, i am a new lightroom user. i use a mac mini m4pro and i just downloaded the lightroom 14.1 version. i am trying to use generative removal but the system tells me to check my internet connection which works fine at 50 mbps. what should i do?

johnrellis
Legend
December 14, 2024

@turcotravel: "i am trying to use generative removal but the system tells me to check my internet connection which works fine at 50 mbps. what should i do?"

 

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.

- On Mac, try relaunching the Finder -- start Finder, click the Finder menu, and do Quit Finder. Someone reported that this solved this problem for him.

To help others, please let us know which of these work and which don't.

Participating Frequently
December 13, 2024

Doesn't remove the lightpole and adds 'junk'.

 

johnrellis
Legend
December 13, 2024

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@sherwood77: "Doesn't remove the lightpole and adds 'junk'.

 

Generative Remove quickly removed the pole in my LR 14.1. I did it in two pieces (see below). 

 

1. Make sure to uncheck Detect Objects -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

 

2. If you make a selection approximately as shown below, does it work better?

 

 

jerryy20523319
Participant
December 13, 2024

Hi,

While I love the AI feature, it is wonky. When I want to remove something, I want it comletely removed and not replaced with an alien.  This is okay but am waiting for the next versions.  It is still more work then it needs to be.

johnrellis
Legend
December 13, 2024

@jerryy20523319: "it is wonky. When I want to remove something, I want it completely removed and not replaced with an alien."

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every one of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

jerryy20523319
Participant
December 13, 2024
Thanks. This is a good start to resolution.
I’ll keep you posted On my progress.

Jerry
Participant
December 12, 2024

Hello. I've read some of the contributions - particularly the one where the 'removal' of a human is replaced not removed. When I highlight someone to be removed, it is replaced with something that is not even human.:

How can I remove and not replace? I do not see an option. I am using Lightroom Classic release 14.1 and build 202412062302-d2b56666

 

Participant
December 12, 2024

to be clear, that 'thing' is the replacement.

Inspiring
December 12, 2024

What are the best ways to speed this up? Selecting the first couple of spots works, then it starts lagging massively, showing the little rotating circle until you can select the next area. Until this has finished rotating, there's no chance of doing anything. Also, the processing is significantly slower than in Photoshop. Almost twice as slow. I haven't touched it again after 10 minutes.

 

 Windows 10, 2xXeon something, 128 GB RAM, Quadro M5000, most recent version (can't check atm). This was slow before, but now it's also laggy

johnrellis
Legend
December 12, 2024

@Corniger: "What are the best ways to speed this up?"

 

Which mode of the Remove tool are you using?  Clone, Heal, Remove without Generative Remove selected (Content Aware), or Remove with Generative Remove selected?

Inspiring
December 13, 2024

Remove with Gen AI selected, Detect Objects not selected. Use GPU set to auto.

Participant
December 12, 2024

In my LR generative remove is not working at all. is this server issue? or experienced by anyone else too?

johnrellis
Legend
December 12, 2024

@AkhileshS20: "my LR generative remove is not working at all."

 

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.

- On Mac, try relaunching the Finder -- start Finder, click the Finder menu, and do Quit Finder. Someone reported that this solved this problem for him.

To help others, please let us know which of these work and which don't.

Participant
August 29, 2025

It's not the Firewall. It looks like an expired token to use the remote GenAI. I noticed this too. If I keep LR open for 2+ days this inevitably happens and requires a restart, then it works again... Until next time.

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
December 12, 2024

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update (August 2025) With the new release, the Generative Remove Engine has been updated. 
See this video for details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwpUX4b6igY 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
johnrellis
Legend
December 12, 2024

@Rikk Flohr: Photography: "Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping."

 

...or Transform or Lens Corrections. And it's no longer necessary to do heroic brushing to remove objects along the edges of photos where LR / Camera Raw has applied the can't-be-disabled hidden cropping performed on many cameras.

 

This will avoid a lot of the confusion reported in this thread!

C.Cella
Legend
December 12, 2024

The changes done in the current release DO NOT change the problematic situation with Remove.
Yes we can now apply remove even if the image is cropped BUT it doesn't work well.


Starting point.



I paint the Gen Remove




All works till now, I painted on the uncropped image.



I then Crop the  image AND refresh the Gen Remove.

 

All seems good now as well...


 


Wrong!!!
Look at the hidden reality:





When the full uncropped image is revealed I can see the Gen Remove left an horrible blob on the tree outside the crop, something that didn't  happen when I painted on the uncropped image BUT because we can't do "Show Uncropped Image" I can't see the poor result of the refresh so I am led to believe all was ok (but it was not the case)

 


• The reality is that at all times we must always see AND paint the remove on the entire image otherwise we leave out parts necessary for the Remove to be usable in all situations...so we need the option "Show Uncropped Image" in LrC like in ACR to properly paint usable remove AND judge its quality when we refresh.

Needless to say that painting a partial remove when the image is cropped delivers horrible partial results as the moment one changes the crop the remove must be redone/refined/completed. 

Participant
December 12, 2024

Uso a IA dentro do Lightroom para remover pequenos objetos com o objetivo de "limpar" as imagens. Achei a ferramenta fácil de ajustar e com excelente resultado na grande maioria das vezes; poucas são as situações, no meu tipo de edição, que tenho que levar para o Photoshop depois do "remove" com IA dentro do Lightroom. Este recurso reduz o tempo de edição consideravelmente, pois agora a edição da maioria das imagens é todo feita no Lightroom, sem necessidade ir ao Photoshop e voltar.. . Meu fluxo de trabalho melhorou consideravelmente. IA para remoção de detalhes e elementos indesejados na edição das imagens está fantástico! Aprovadissímo!!