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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

App version
System details
Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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melaniem37974764

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It feels like the earlier trial version of the Remove tool was better than the updated version, it doesn't seem to recognise the object I'm trying to remove and just presents a slightly different version of it. Previously it would be able to pick up that I was selecting out say a railing against a green bush backdrop and replace it with the green foliage, now it just reconfigures the bar. Am I missing something?

johnrellis

Legend

@melaniem37974764: "it doesn't seem to recognise the object I'm trying to remove and just presents a slightly different version of it."

Uncheck the option Detect Objects and then select the object you want removed. Detect Objects is on by default in LR 14, and it often doesn't work well.

Also, see this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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melaniem37974764

Participant

Thank you that's a really helpful sheet. I've just tried it and it seems to work better, think I wasn't selecting a big enough area around the object to remove. Many thanks for your help

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sb2314

Known Participant

Go back to the original without cropping, straightening, or editing. Then try it. It will work almost always. Do any editing or manipulations after erasing.

johns9744233

Participating Frequently

I worked on the original raw image as a first edit as recommended in the prior posts. Whilst the original pylon disappears what is left in its place is a blurred section of mountains and some water. I attach the result which has been cropped so that you can the result clearly. But I stress that no image manipulation was carried out prior to this.

johnrellis

Legend

It's hard to say what's going wrong for you without seeing the original unmodified photo -- share it via any of the free options of Wetransfer, Dropbox, Google Drive, Onedrive, etc.

johns9744233

Participating Frequently

I am struggling to remove unwanted objects from my images and thought that Generative Remove would be the answer. Specifically I want to get rid of power lines against a sky background and electricity pylons against a mountain backdrop. Am getting some pretty weird results where I would have thought that it would have been a pretty simple operation. It's possible that I am using the incorrect tools within the Adobe suite? Any help would be gratefully received.

johnrellis

Legend

@johns9744233: "I want to get rid of power lines against a sky background and electricity pylons against a mountain backdrop. Am getting some pretty weird results"

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

johns9744233

Participating Frequently

Hi John, I've taken the liberty of cropping the image as it would be outside of your upload parameters.

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Brauneddy

Participant

Hello,

I have following issues with the removing tool.

On the left side is the roof of a house. First attemts with AI was transforming the roof what is a bit weird as I chose removing. However it got better later but still remaining the roof form in a kind of negative version. Please see screenshots.

What am I doing wrong?

Best regards

Alex

johnrellis

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@Brauneddy, in the first screenshot showing a selection:

you didn't select all of the building. If you were using the Detect Options option, it often doesn't do well with objects on the edge of the photo -- turn it off.

The ghost roofs are caused by applying Remove on top of an AI mask, e.g. a Sky mask:

Do Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask, and the ghost should go away.

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

JimmyGT

Participant

Using AI Remove and it just alters the image, doens't remove it.

johnrellis

Legend

@JimmyGT: "it just alters the image, doens't remove it."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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default1o4g13rqajev

Participant

The remove option in LrC is not good enough when trying to remove cables and lines. It just replaces the line with another line, when I just want it completely gone...

johnrellis

Legend

If you cropped the photo first, undo the crop, apply remove, then redo the crop. If the photo is a raw and not cropped, then make the brush very large and brush the corner, keeping the center of the brush just inside the photo, as described here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/generative-remove-doesn-t-ignore-the-hidden-border-pixels-automatically-cropped-by-camera-raw/m-p/14925572

If this doesn't help, please upload the original raw to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here. With everyone who has shared a photo, we've been able to show how to easily remove the object.

johnrellis

Legend

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Also, applying Remove to the cable in your screenshot works perfectly, confirming my analysis:

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Alice_Bruno1335

Participant

Salve ho un problema con la rimozione generativa di LRC. Quando provo a rimuovere qualcosa mi esce sempre un messaggio di errore. Come si può risolvere questo problema?

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mfleck69

Participant

Hello. I'm a photographer in the theatre arts at a major university in Pennsylvania. Just a note if you're not aware: In Lightroom Classic, the 'Remove' tool (with Generative AI and Detect objects both checked) is not removing objects, rather it's replacing them with random items or shapes. I'm trying to remove what is a clean selection and clear object, and Lightroom is adding new objects rather than removing. Thank you for your attention and I look forward to improvements.

johnrellis

Legend

@mfleck69: "Lightroom is adding new objects rather than removing."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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NickiG

Participant

My AI Remove slide is NOT working. It has stopped working since the newest version came in. What's going on? Does anyone else have the same issues?

johnrellis

Legend

@NickiG: "It has stopped working since the newest version came in. "

If it's not generating any replacements at all, even bad ones, then check that the Opacity slider is set to 100.

After you click Remove, it will appear with the other controls that let you modify the removal:

If that doesn't help, then describe in more detail what you're seeing.

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Damian25720529zyod

Participant

Generative AI deleting should have it's own mode - 4th in the remove panel. Or at least, remove tool should reset to deafult after using, because now it saves feature tha was used before, which is often waste of time to change it manually by unchecking 'generative ai' or both 'detect object' and 'generative ai'.

johnrellis

Legend

The current layout also causes confusion, because users don't know that the older Content-Aware remove is still available by unchecking Generative AI. Content-Aware is still quite useful for powerl ines and and when you have many smaller spots.

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