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pinkypunk35
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  • July 2, 2014
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Is Fuji X-Trans support being worked on?I appreciate that the support is better now than it was, but the reality is that Lightroom is still a long way behind other RAW developers, all of which are less well funded and with smaller teams working on the software.Lightroom has been the leader in RAW processing an image cataloging as far back as I can recall; but with the Fuji X-Trans files many people I know are leaving Adobe Lightroom for one of the many other developers, all of which are producing far better results than Adobe Lightroom.Ones I have personally tested are as follows: Iridient DeveloperPhoto NinjaLightZoneCapture OneApertureSilkyPixRaw TherapeeIridient is very good, and this is a piece of software made by a single man.My question is, if he can get it right, why can't Adobe? They have been leaders in innovation for many years but it seems in some areas now they are falling behind - I have never seen so many people leave a major developer for smaller independent ones, but to Fuji users (both enthusiasts and professionals) it's a pretty simple decision when you compare results.So all I'd like to know is if my patience sticking with Lightroom is justified, and whether a solution is being worked on - or will always be worked on. Or is it a case that the users wanting such a change are not enough to support such work.

    Correct answer MassC
    Hi Everyone,

    We are happy to announce the release of Lightroom Classic CC 8.2. With this release, we’ve introduced a new feature called Enhanced Details.

    Photographers using cameras featuring X-Trans sensors should see an improved rendering of their Fuji raw files.

    To learn more about how this new feature works check out the blog post:  https://theblog.adobe.com/enhance-details/

    Cheers,
    Carissa

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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    October 18, 2015
    Dear fujiguys, I've compared the RAW conversion from the old and the fresh bugfixed LR CC 6.2 version and I found there is no apparent changes in X-Trans RAW processing, i.e. the images still have the mentioned drawbacks. If you observe the opposite please give us know here.

    According to the changelog https://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjour... there is no info about X-Trans optimization as well.
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    3dit0r1
    Known Participant
    August 26, 2015
    I didn't know that about auto-masking an X-trans, thanks for clarifying. Maybe there are additional overheads involved, x-trans does seem to be a little harder to demosaic, etc. In any case, I still prefer the overall look of my files when I process Fuji through C1.
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    Mike Katz
    Participating Frequently
    August 26, 2015
    Here's another one, C1 does not support graphics processing with X-trans files, so processing is much slower than with other formats.
    Also, does not support lens correction tool with X-trans files, so if you use non-Fuji lenses you can't make adjustments.
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    Mike Katz
    Participating Frequently
    August 26, 2015
    C1 does not support auto masking on X-trans files, and they have no plans to do so. Auto masking is available for most, if not all, other cameras.
    So, no, they do NOT fully support X-trans files.
    I think there are more limitations as well, I can't remember what they are.
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    3dit0r1
    Known Participant
    August 26, 2015
    Sorry, you confused me now. Do you mean LR or C1 won't add full support? C1 supports X-Trans as fully as any other camera.
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    Mike Katz
    Participating Frequently
    August 26, 2015
    The problem is that C1 is not as powerful as C1 as regards auto masking, and I use it a lot in LR. It doesn't look like C1 are ever going to add full support for the X-Trans files.
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    3dit0r1
    Known Participant
    August 26, 2015
    Yes, it's true C1 is not quite as powerful in that regard as LR. However, I now do 99% of processing in C1 and use PS to do more advanced masking, etc., which I honestly use for only 1% of shots.

    Of course, PS is designed for this, so tends to be a better tool than either LR or PS for this kind of work. Depending on need/style YMMV, but I'm surprised how much I like C1 after a little adaptation.
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    Mike Katz
    Participating Frequently
    August 26, 2015
    I eventually decided to try the switch to C1.

    First thing I tried to do was to create a selection around an irregular item, and C1 does not support auto masking on X-Trans files! A deal-breaker for me as I process only in Lightroom and would want to do the same in C1.
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    3dit0r1
    Known Participant
    August 26, 2015
    I have recently been using Capture One for X-Trans, and found it a great compromise between the Adobe workflow and file management, and the better detail rendering of Iridient.

    If you try C1, be sure to drag the luminance and colour NR sliders to 0, but leave detail slider where it is. I find the default sharpening with a level of 200 works well. The colour correction wheels in C1 are just awesome, by the way, and I like the default colour profiles much better than Adobe.

    None of this is to say I don't want Adobe to fix this in LR, but for now there are valid alternatives.
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    retrofokus
    Participant
    August 26, 2015
    Glad I found this thread before making the switch to Fujifilm. Hopefully Adobe will pull their corporate act together and provide RAW processing worthy of the X-Trans sensor. If Adobe doesn't, I'll make the switch nonetheless, and then proceed to throw the Adobe baby out with the bathwater in the same instant. I am the consumer, I wield power! Or so they (who?) say...
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