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pinkypunk35
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July 2, 2014
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Is Fuji X-Trans support being worked on?I appreciate that the support is better now than it was, but the reality is that Lightroom is still a long way behind other RAW developers, all of which are less well funded and with smaller teams working on the software.Lightroom has been the leader in RAW processing an image cataloging as far back as I can recall; but with the Fuji X-Trans files many people I know are leaving Adobe Lightroom for one of the many other developers, all of which are producing far better results than Adobe Lightroom.Ones I have personally tested are as follows: Iridient DeveloperPhoto NinjaLightZoneCapture OneApertureSilkyPixRaw TherapeeIridient is very good, and this is a piece of software made by a single man.My question is, if he can get it right, why can't Adobe? They have been leaders in innovation for many years but it seems in some areas now they are falling behind - I have never seen so many people leave a major developer for smaller independent ones, but to Fuji users (both enthusiasts and professionals) it's a pretty simple decision when you compare results.So all I'd like to know is if my patience sticking with Lightroom is justified, and whether a solution is being worked on - or will always be worked on. Or is it a case that the users wanting such a change are not enough to support such work.

    Correct answer MassC
    Hi Everyone,

    We are happy to announce the release of Lightroom Classic CC 8.2. With this release, we’ve introduced a new feature called Enhanced Details.

    Photographers using cameras featuring X-Trans sensors should see an improved rendering of their Fuji raw files.

    To learn more about how this new feature works check out the blog post:  https://theblog.adobe.com/enhance-details/

    Cheers,
    Carissa

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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    July 22, 2015
    This thread is very important. Adobe, please read this and act.

    I'm a new owner of Fujifilm X-M1, upgrading from X-A1. I was so surprised to find out that I have to use a free minor program, RawTherapee to get the details out of my RAF files. My workflow used to go through Adobe Camera Raw but not anymore!
    If you want me back, please get your software on par with competition by providing competitive X-Trans RAW support!
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    jhuxman1972
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    July 21, 2015
    Am following this thread with great interest as I have used Lightroom CC for my RAW's since I acquired my Fuji X-E2. I just recently downloaded a trial version of Capture One Pro 8 and am astounded at how much better the sharpening is in Capture One verses Lightroom. Here's another vote for Adobe to improve their X-trans support.
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    3dit0r1
    Known Participant
    June 17, 2015
    OK, here is a little comparison, as promised. LR CC (latest update) vs Iridient (latest version). I tried to get the best sharpening I possibly could in LR (100% detail method, Radius 1.0, Amount 40, no masking, no luminance or colour NR) any more than this didn't help actual acuity, just looked more exaggerated and painterly in the fine detailed foliage mid-scene.

    Iridient wasn't maxed out by any means at all. Settings were - V3 Detail+ X-Trans, Method-Iridient Reveal, Radius 0.75, Edge Detail Landscape/Strong 150, Texture/Micro detail 15, Edge Masking 0. No noise reduction. This produced a file which might look a little crisp on screen, but was print ready (and indeed produced a lovely, natural looking A2 print). The LR print didn't offer any more real sharpening even at print stage, just nothing more there to work from.

    Sorry, didn't work out how to downscale the file-size to post a meaningful 100% crop here, so hope it's OK to just link to a file on my photobucket account? 100% view of a larger file in PS side by side. LR rendering on left, Iridient on right.

    http://s122.photobucket.com/user/jame...

    [edit: click on the magnifying glass to open a 100% view in browser].
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    pinkypunk35Author
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    June 17, 2015
    Denis - are you joking?

    "If Adobe's rendition of the file data from your particular camera model does not satisfy your taste, why is this a critical problem?"

    Let's imagine you drive a Toyota. Let's also imagine where you live there is just one petrol station, it's the only petrol station in a 50 mile radius. Naturally you and many of the folk in your town have been using this station every day for several years, until one day the station decides to stop providing premium petrol like everyone else and instead they start selling petrol of less quality than other suppliers.

    What's worse is that this petrol really doesn't work nicely with Toyota's - it causes them to splutter, loses acceleration, and create a lot of smelly fumes.

    What would you do?

    The participants of this forum would request that the petrol station rectify this and improve the quality of petrol. You are the only one who would change their car.
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    iohfroiherwoihewroi
    Participating Frequently
    June 17, 2015
    I don't see how this is helpful. I am sure Adobe is interested in knowing that their products don't work well for certain cameras.
    DdeGannes
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    DdeGannesCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    June 16, 2015
    I understand the concern as I have been shooting raw since 2004.

    Adobe is a third party supplier of software for rendering raw files from digital cameras, Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw. If Adobe's rendition of the file data from your particular camera model does not satisfy your taste, why is this a critical problem? There are at least a dozen other providers of software that can match or improve on their rendition, including the software provided by the camera manufacturer.

    Choose the one that satisfies your needs, convert your raw files to tiff files and do further work on them with Adobe Products.
    Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.3; PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
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    BoomeArt
    Inspiring
    June 16, 2015
    I hope a little less, may be 2 years and a half 😉
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    fleckintosh
    Participating Frequently
    June 16, 2015
    That News means, it will take another 3 years from now until we see some improvements... 😕😕
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    June 16, 2015
    That sounds very encouraging! I dicscovered, that sticking to other RAW-development SW by means of exporting to TIFF and opening the file in PS chews up my time. My workflow is completely broken.
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    BoomeArt
    Inspiring
    June 16, 2015
    Well, now we know that Adobe is working under improvement of rendering x-trans RAWs. And also we know, that in todays update of LR 6.1 is nothing improved yet.
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