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July 2, 2014
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P: Improved Fuji X-Trans Support?

  • July 2, 2014
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Is Fuji X-Trans support being worked on?I appreciate that the support is better now than it was, but the reality is that Lightroom is still a long way behind other RAW developers, all of which are less well funded and with smaller teams working on the software.Lightroom has been the leader in RAW processing an image cataloging as far back as I can recall; but with the Fuji X-Trans files many people I know are leaving Adobe Lightroom for one of the many other developers, all of which are producing far better results than Adobe Lightroom.Ones I have personally tested are as follows: Iridient DeveloperPhoto NinjaLightZoneCapture OneApertureSilkyPixRaw TherapeeIridient is very good, and this is a piece of software made by a single man.My question is, if he can get it right, why can't Adobe? They have been leaders in innovation for many years but it seems in some areas now they are falling behind - I have never seen so many people leave a major developer for smaller independent ones, but to Fuji users (both enthusiasts and professionals) it's a pretty simple decision when you compare results.So all I'd like to know is if my patience sticking with Lightroom is justified, and whether a solution is being worked on - or will always be worked on. Or is it a case that the users wanting such a change are not enough to support such work.

Correct answer MassC
Hi Everyone,

We are happy to announce the release of Lightroom Classic CC 8.2. With this release, we’ve introduced a new feature called Enhanced Details.

Photographers using cameras featuring X-Trans sensors should see an improved rendering of their Fuji raw files.

To learn more about how this new feature works check out the blog post:  https://theblog.adobe.com/enhance-details/

Cheers,
Carissa

378 replies

Inspiring
November 19, 2014
Out of interest, have any of you come across this method for using LR detail slider to obtain Deconvolution sharpening that claims to be as good as Irident Developer? See http://petebridgwood.com/wp/2014/10/x... and comments from various people who have tried it out (in particular on images other than landscapes) at http://www.luminous-landscape.com/for...
Haven't tried it out myself yet, but will be a huge relief to me if I can do everything within LR and not have to learn a new program/workflow and pay for additional software.

Interested to hear your thoughts if you've tried this out on portraits.
Inspiring
November 18, 2014
To have all photos organized in catalogue it is very convenient, but not to have any opportunity to post-process in correct way photos is awful. So I forget about catalogue and switched to Iridient Developer and now I feel myself a happiest man on Earth.
Ascccc
Participating Frequently
November 18, 2014
I've never seen such a big difference between C1 and Lightroom. But in this example there is really a huge difference.

I really don't want to move to C1 because it destroyed my catalogue and I have no faith in this software.
Known Participant
November 18, 2014
Adobe's lack of support and lack of any official word on this topic is still disappointing.This thread has been active for 5 months now with 31 others sharing the same issue - not a lot granted - but this isn't the only thread on this topic and it's the 13th most popular post in the "problems" section.

Only today I am processing hundreds of images and what I thought were out of focus areas due to an f1.2 lens is actually just softness caused by Adobe Lightroom; this was only clear to me when I demoed the latest version of Capture One Pro. This is very frustrating to feel that as a Lightroom user and Adobe supporter I am having to put up with inferior results.

Adobe, please do us the decency of addressing the complaints, even if it's to say you have no plans to improve support - at least then the loyal customers, such as I, can finally make a call whether to migrate away to another RAW developer.

As it stands we are waiting with baited breath hoping to maintain large libraries and edits rather than move away, but this is a long time complaint that seemingly isn't being addressed.

It's generally accepted by Fuji users that Adobe are lagging way behind the competition when it comes to Fuji X-Trans support and as the biggest developer with the largest budget this simply doesn't make sense.

Here is an example from today. I don't think I need to label which is from Lightdoom.

Participating Frequently
October 16, 2014
Thanks for your replies guys. Much appreciated. Looks like I'll be staying with LR for everything.

I have also just come across this...

http://photographylife.com/fujifilm-r...
DdeGannes
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 15, 2014
There is little doubt that both C1 and DxO latest upgrades have raised the quality level of raw processing software.
I am pretty sure Adobe has optimized the processing profiles for the Xtrans sensor with their Process V 2012, and guess that sometime soon Adobe will have to introduce a new Process version to match the competition.
Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.3; PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
Ascccc
Participating Frequently
October 15, 2014
Adobe has improved Xtrans support significantly in LR 5.6. You really need an update for proper support. You will also get the internal film simulations as camera profiles. LR 5.6 is not awful but not as good as C1 in detail rendition. I also have a Nikon D800 and one should not expect the same detail level from the Fuji because the D800 is a different beast.
Participating Frequently
October 15, 2014
I too am on the verge of switching from Nikon to Fuji (drowning all my Nikon gear in a Himalayan river has helped the decision!)

As Andres mentions above, what are those of you leaving LR going to to about your cataloged images?
Not only have I invested a lot of time in learning LR (and still have a lot to learn), I have 30k+ images cataloged.

I am currently using LR 4.3 and would therefore need to upgrade when I move to Fuji. Having read this thread I'm unsure as to the best move.

Suggestions?
Ascccc
Participating Frequently
October 13, 2014
When you have over 25k files developed and categorized in Lightroom you don't want to change the raw converter.
Turning the detail slider to 100 and reducing the amount of sharpening I can live with the situation until the next major update.
I would love to spend 60 bucks if sharpening and details would be as good as in Capture One.
I really like to unleash the power of the X trans sensor...

I am sure that time will come when LR is again a step ahead from Capture One. It's the same race as between Canon and Nikon. Then I don't want to change again.
Participating Frequently
October 13, 2014
Sorry Andreas, i dont want Lightroom 6. I payed Money for Lightroom 5. it doesn't work good, as anybody knows. So why should i pay additional Money for bugfixes?!?

I expect a bugfix in lightroom 5. THEN i think about LR 6.

But i dont think that adobe cares. In The ACR 8.7 Beta there is still no sign of bugfix for this issue.

I think The guy from The photokina fujifilm Booth was right as he mentioned, that Adobe wants to earn Money and wait for LR 6 to Get this issue solved.

Not my Circus. Not my Monkeys.

I Switched to Capture One. I want to be on the right side of the gap. ;)

Capture One and Apple Aperture are the best Solution, if you want an "all-in-one" Package. Best raw convertion, good Workflow, good file Handling.

Aperture Sadly is a Dead end. It was my Favorite.

Now i think i Found a successor with capture one but Not with lightroom.

Adobe, canon, Nikon, they all gonna end like Blackberry, Nokia, etc. because they are sleeping. Not Developing. I am Done with them.

Old grey Gentlemen, the Future Knocks on your door.

Bye!