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January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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ArcherA4

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Brilliant feature (Lightroom Classic) - I like to understand mechanisms and found that my early attempts improved with the explanations you provided re the feature trying to create objects to create the remaining shadow/reflection/connecting the wires sampled in the uncropped image etc

I do sometimes have problems with sensitive edges, eg a face with a blurred object behind it. Selecting a normally generous edge for the blurred object can replace or change some of the face but even removing any of the selection from the face can still result in a change to it. I wonder if there is a mechanism or development request for the ability to have an absolutely inviolable protection for an area which must not be changed?

Many thanks

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sarah_9541

Participant

Love the feature

, it almost always understands what im needing it to do. and if it doesnt all i have to do is zoom in and be more specific.

I will say I only use the feature to remove things. I never really use it to add things.

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Michele MMPhoto

Participant

I'm using IA to remove object from the scene. If the objects are small IA is great but for large parts or backgrounds, that need to be smoother out, AI doesn't work as well.

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Vivien25632459qigm

Participant

AI does not remove vertical bars in the face of the subject.

johnrellis

Legend

@Vivien25632459qigm: "AI does not remove vertical bars in the face of the subject."

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Vivien25632459qigm

Participant

Here are the original jpeg files. I'm trying to crop to show use the little boy and to remove the white railings from the little boy's body. Can you help?

Regards,
Vivien

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RKentB

Participant

It is still quite difficult to just erase something. The tool tends to substitute something that it derives from the underlying image. In order to get it to delete something, you have to select such a large area that other objects are also included and then influence the result as well.

johnrellis

Legend

@RKentB: "the tool tends to substitute something that it derives from the underlying image."

See this article for how to remove rather than replace objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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david_8994

Participant

Bonjour,

Au début la suppresion d'objet indisirable avec l'IA fonctionnait à la perfection. Maintenant ce dernier me propose plutôt des suggessions basé sur d'autre objet qu'il trouve sur le net, au lieu d'utiliser la photos pour supprimer le défault.

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marcus6675

Participant

seems to work so much better in photoshop... why can't they make it as good in lightroom?

johnrellis

Legend

@marcus6675: "seems to work so much better in photoshop... why can't they make it as good in lightroom?"

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Goldilocks208

Participant

Sometimes it gets glitchy and doesn't retain the full area selected when generating. Very frustrating.

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Anne27463624wqqc

Participating Frequently

The tool is phenomenal for removing branches across birds. But I just tried to remove an electrical wire from the sky and it wouldn't do it. It only smoothed out the twisted wire. I would think that would be the easiest thing to remove. I tried various diameter removal tools also. See photo- middle wire has been "removed."

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Anne27463624wqqc

Participating Frequently

I just perfectly removed the wire from the tail of the bird, now it looks like the wire is behind the bird! I guess I will use photoshop to remove the rest of the wire.

johnrellis

Legend

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@Anne27463624wqqc: " But I just tried to remove an electrical wire from the sky and it wouldn't do it. It only smoothed out the twisted wire."

Remove did a good job of removing all three wires from your exported JPEG:

Its metadata indicates you were editing a .CR3 raw that you had cropped. When you use Remove on a cropped photo, it examines the cropped-out pixels as well, and in your example, it's generating a replacement matching the cropped-out part of the wires.

Adobe recommends removing first, then cropping, which doesn't match many (most?) people's workflow. So in your photo, undo the crop, remove the wires, then redo the crop.

See this article for more on how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

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macey_9516

Participant

This feature has been a God send for me! I'd say it works perfectly 8/10 times. The other two times, it can't get removing frizzy hair quite right. Overall very impressed and excited for it to get stronger and better.

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