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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

mpressionz
Participant
June 28, 2024

AMAZING!!!!! I love what it has done for some of my images... it can be funny though! I'm adding 3 images... the first original with a '360° camera' in the shot, the second (unrefined) capture to remove it and the third, a much better defined selection to remove but still an unsubmittable image.  The AI did very well in my opinion, and I hope your further development of it will be even more pleasing. Bravo!

Known Participant
June 28, 2024

This is dissappointing - not nearly as good or effective as the AI tools in Photoshop.  Still better to Edit in Photoshop (edit a copy) to remove distractions, generate extra space etc first, then go back into LR and do all your other edits etc there.  You keep a copy of the original as well, in case it all goes wrong!

johnrellis
Legend
June 28, 2024

@Top Cat2000: "This is dissappointing - not nearly as good or effective as the AI tools in Photoshop."

 

Could you please post an example or two of the original photo and the results of LR Remove and Photoshop Remove?  Most of the reports here of Photoshop doing better are addressed in this article:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/ 

 

It would be helpful to know in detail which issues you're facing with LR Remove.

Known Participant
June 28, 2024

A difficult image to edit, so ignore the underexposed ship.  In the LR edit, there is a ghost image where the wind turbine has been removed - this took about 4 attempts to get a reasonable result.  The cars were fairly well removed in LR (2 attempts), and the figure by the bollard was more successfully removed, (1st attempt) as was the smaller mast in the distance.  I then used the Generative fill in PS to compare, and the replacements were all better than the LR ones.

Participant
June 28, 2024

I find the generative remove in Lightroom Classic very helpful, but the replacement resolution is much too low and the replacements, at 100%, often reveal  a vicious halo around the edges.  Sometimes there is stippling or what may be a grid patter in the repair area also.  I am confident in time these issues will be resolved........

johnrellis
Legend
June 28, 2024

@corneliusr7095, please attach here full-resolution JPEG exports of the original photos and the results of applying Remove showing these different issues. That will provide Adobe with actual examples of what's going wrong.

Participating Frequently
June 27, 2024

a clear yellow line not removed 
other pictures the same with clear objects

 

johnrellis
Legend
June 27, 2024

@Gerard38305403cjab: "a clear yellow line not removed, other pictures the same with clear objects"

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach the original photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

Participant
June 27, 2024

EU ESTOU AMANDO, ERA O QUE FALTAVA NO LR

 

Participant
June 27, 2024

MY AREAS UNDER 'REMOVE' LOOK NOTHING LIKE THE ONE I JUST SAW ON PHLEARN...NOTHING REMOTELY LIKD WHAT HE WAS WORKING WITH...MY 13.4 IS 'EARLY ACCESS'....BUT AGAIN HAS NO APPEARANCE LIKE THE ONE HE WAS USING AS AN EXAMPLE...I WATCHED HIS VIDEO SEVERAL TIMES, THE SCREEN IN MY 'REMOVE' IS NOTHING LIKE THE ONE HE SHOWED....SHOULD I REINSTALL 13.4?  PHLEARNS DID NOT SHOW 'EARLY ACCESS' IN THE BOX....ANY IDEAS???????

johnrellis
Legend
June 27, 2024

@Frankie36, please post a full-resolution screenshot (no a phone pic) of the entire LR window, so we can see what you're seeing and get the issue straightened out.

justiceh31399648
Participant
June 27, 2024

I've used it on some small things and its done great. It has however left some bright spots over the object I have removed but, ive been able to fix it so far. 

Participant
June 27, 2024

Tengo 2 preguntas:

1. Si aplico la herramienta IA generativa (en Lightroom Classic) sobre una previsualización inteligente, esta se aplica sobre la imagen al 100% o al tamaño de la previsualización? Cuando desactivo la previsualización no queda bien a tamaño 1:1, queda borroso.

2. Si aplico esta herramienta IA Generativa desde Lightroom o Lightroom Deskop a una foto de una colección sincronizada desde Lightroom Classic se aplica en la previsualización o en la foto original?

Me está pasando que el trabajo realizado se ha aplicado a las previsualizaciones, y no a las fotos tamaño 1:1. Quedando difuminadas las zonas que he tratado con la herramienta !quitar"

Participating Frequently
June 26, 2024

Any tips on removing bubbles from an underwater scene?, I've not had much success although I think the way it can remove "objects" is great!
Here's an example image I've just been working on

 

Participating Frequently
June 26, 2024

actually - forget what i just said... I just installed 13.4 and tried again. This time it nailed it!!

it might not stand up to close scrutiny but I suspect I could get it perfect with more effort.
What an excellent tool this is!

Participant
June 26, 2024

Buenas tardes.

No funciona correctamente, ya que al querer detectar un cable electrico, detecta otra cosa totalmente ajeno a lo que estaba marcando.

 

johnrellis
Legend
June 26, 2024

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Google translation: "when it wants to detect an electric cable, it detects something else totally unrelated to what it was marking."  Error message: "Remove. No object has been detected."

 

You've brushed over the horizontal cable but the white outline of the brush marks are vertical.  There have been a couple of other similar reports that the brush strokes on a portrait photo don't correspond to what LR actually indicates as the brush strokes. There's clearly a problem with Remove interpreting the orientation correctly.   Unfortunately, I'm not able to reproduce the problem.

 

To help get an actionable bug report, please upload the original photo (not an export or screenshot) to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.  Unless Adobe is able to reproduce the problem, or unless many people report the symptoms, they generally won't pay much attention.

 

Using your low-resolution screenshot, Remove did a very good job of removing the cable:

 

As a workaround, if you export the photo as a TIFF and then reimport it into LR, Remove should work properly.