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January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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brianp36230040

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Not working in LrC. Works nicely in Photoshop, but in LrC I'm getting zip

johnrellis

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@brianp36230040: "Not working in LrC. Works nicely in Photoshop, but in LrC I'm getting zip"

See this article about how to use Remove and why you're probably getting different results in Photoshop:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

If that doesn't help, please attach an original photo (not an export) here and call out the object you can't remove.

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judyc46

Participant

I have been using the Generative AI tool in Lightroom Classic to remove glare from glasses. Here are a few tips I have learned. First remove the glare before making any other changes. Second be sure to cover the eyeglasses completely. Third do one eye at a time. It works great. It was a life saver at a 50th anniversary party.

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saydelah

Participant

Removing some distracting out of focus flowers against a blurred background in a relatively high ISO photo - removed them, sort of matched the background colour but the grain was totally different to that of the background it was awful and obvious.

johnrellis

Legend

@saydelah, attach the full photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see what you're working with.

jonathanp41403920

Inspiring

First use of the feature - consistently seems to remove the item I brush over but the replacement is more exposed than the areas around the removed item. Example - dark coloured stone on a sandy beach. Stone is removed and replaced by sand but the replacement sand where the stone was is more exposed than the sand is around the replaced stone

jonathanp41403920

Inspiring

johnrellis

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@jonathanp41403920: "the replacement is more exposed than the areas around the removed item. "

I've found that increasing the selection to include more of the background I'd like to see used often improves the match with the surrounding background. Attach the full photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see what you're working with.

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Juall

Participant

A feature that requires users to look up on various blogs how to use it isn't a feature.

Do you really need AI to replace a black spot against the blue sky on the corner of a photo with a slightly smaller grey spot? One would think that should be pretty basic for a generative remove feature to do that...

johnrellis

Legend

@Juall: "Do you really need AI to replace a black spot against the blue sky"

No. Adobe recommends using the existing Remove tools for small spots (Clone, Heal, non-AI Remove, formerly called Content Aware).

"replace a black spot against the blue sky on the corner of a photo with a slightly smaller grey spot?"

You may not have read the help article, but most likely this is caused by the photo being cropped or having lens corrections enabled (which also crops pixels). In such cases, Remove is trying to generate a replacement that matches the surrounding (cropped-out) pixels. Temporarily removing the crop and disabling lens corrections will let you select the entire object and surrounding boundary.

I think many people are getting tripped up by this aspect of the "Early Access" version of the tool, which fools them into thinking Photoshop's Remove works while LR's Remove doesn't. It would be better if, when you selected Generative AI in the tool, it automatically temporarily disabled crops and lens corrections (analogous to how the crop tool shows you the entire photo). Or if it worked on just the currently visible pixels.

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pierre37931906gwbj

Participant

Just wonderful, a game changer !
It was funny to see sometimes it replaces a dustbin by a flower pot !!!?

It would be great if it could comparer similar photos where i used it, to get similar results from one photo to the other,

Thanks!

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lupji

Participant

Its not working for me. It cannot remove it.

LUPJI Photography

johnrellis

Legend

@lupji, see this article about how to use Remove:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

If that doesn't help, please attach an original photo (not an export) here and call out the object you can't remove.

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Bianca Des Jardins

Participant

My Remove tool doesn't work at all since the update. Anyone else ?

johnrellis

Legend

@Bianca Des Jardins: "My Remove tool doesn't work at all since the update."

Which specific tools -- the Remove button (without Generative AI and Object Aware selected), Heal button, or Clone button, or all three? Describe in detail what you're doing and what you observe.

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Bianca Des Jardins

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All three. I can use them and they even seem to process and search but once it's done, nothing happens. I am forced to go in Photoshop everytime. Even if it's just a small pimple.