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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

Participant
June 7, 2024

Really an amazing addition! I find myself using it al the time and I'n pleasantly surprized by it's accuracy. Bravo!

Participant
June 7, 2024

Hello, I'm new to using PS and LRC. I'd done some tests with the AI element suppression in PS and I'm delighted to see the function arrive in LRC. I generated a first time the choice N°2 was good but not perfect, I then updated and the 3 new proposals were not good, when I wanted to return to the proposal N°2 of the first generation that was not possible whereas one can baculate in PS. Did I make a mistake? If not, it would be nice to be able to go back to the previous generated version.

Thank you Corinne

 

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johnrellis
Legend
June 7, 2024

@Lapuce69: "it would be nice to be able to go back to the previous generated version."

 

The command Edit > Undo will back up to the previous version. See the attached screen recording for an example.

Participant
June 7, 2024

Hi,

Love the feature, but...

Remove should be more of a ''remove'' thing than a ''replace'' thing.

The selection of remove areas isn't intuitive.

The results are very volatile (sometimes very good, sometimes pretty bad).

The general application of the generative removal tool should be more like in Photoshop, where you have more control over the affected areas.

Kind regards,

johnrellis
Legend
June 7, 2024

See this article for how to use the tool more reliably to remove rather than replace:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Participant
June 7, 2024

When removing objects against a clear sky, the sky is darkened around where the objects was

johnrellis
Legend
June 7, 2024

@PhotoInge: "When removing objects against a clear sky, the sky is darkened around where the objects was"

 

That can happen if you apply any of the Remove tools on top of an existing mask. In Develop, do Settings > Update AI Settings.  In general, do Remove first, then create the mask.

Participant
June 6, 2024

I think this function would dramastically benefit, if it would include an option to choose whether I want to erase an object, or replace it. Other than that, It is sufficiently satisfying with its results.

Inspiring
June 7, 2024

But it's always replacing!!  The question is with what.

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 7, 2024

@jrsforums 

 

Have a look at below linked tutorial. It demonstrates how to use the tool to remove rather than replace.

 

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/ 

Participant
June 6, 2024

when I try and remove an object instead of removing it a different version of it is presented

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 6, 2024

@Thomas37593117qy7v 

 

Have a look at below linked tutorial. It demonstrates how to use the tool to remove rather than replace.

 

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/ 

Participant
June 6, 2024

I was having trouble with using the remove feature, but this morning I reset everything in the Remove portion of the menu.  Then once again checked only the box for Generative AI and my results are stellar today.  I even looked through all three of the ones generated and it was usually the first one that did the trick.

 

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 6, 2024

Good news that you resolved whatever the issue was causing bad results.

Participant
June 6, 2024

I do like the feature - it seems way more accurate than the old healing (or PS spot healing tools) on many occasions.
However, the Metadata logging seems somewhat off, as I have a few photos marked from the LR filters (Library panel) as edited using AI technology, which I edited the last time way before AI was available in LR. Looking into those spots where I used the healing tool, these are clearly marked as not being healed by Generative Remove. Thus images might get flagged for (excessive) use of AI, which were never touched by AI in the first place.

Hope this can be adjusted in a future fix.

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 6, 2024

The Content-Aware Remove tool from LrC 12.x uses AI technology, albeit based solely on the pixels within the image. Therefore, any images edited using that tool will be flagged as having AI.

Participant
June 6, 2024

a peine le temps d'essayer qu'il y a plus de credit, ca parrait bien mais un essai et hop plus de credit, c'est dommage, je veux pas payer des credits sans savoir si ca peut m'etre utile ou pas

 

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 6, 2024

Generative AI has been disgnated as 'Early Access'. As such, any credits used as part of your edits carry no cost. 

Participant
June 6, 2024

Is anybody else experiencing a slowdown in Lightroom Classic after installing the update with Generative Remove?  I find it noticeably slower, but wondered whether it had anything to do with another program that linked to Lightroom (DXO Raw), that crashed on me and so I uninstalled it. I have however uninstalled and reinstalled LRC hoping to fix any software issues, but with no improvement in response times. Before I did the latest updated, LRC response time was fast. Thanks,