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Rikk Flohr-Retired
Adobe Employee
Jan 22, 2023 3:17 PM UTC
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

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daleducatteCorrect answer
Participating Frequently
Sep 19, 2024 2:29 AM UTC

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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Participant
Jun 5, 2024 3:23 PM UTC

I intended to remove a person from a picture and expected to have the backgroud replace the person, instead it created a new person, not related in anyway to the person removed.  It made me laugh, but not what I was looking for.  Resorted to stamping and content aware removal

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 5, 2024 3:35 PM UTC

@Jeff Friedhoffer, "I intended to remove a person from a picture and expected to have the backgroud replace the person, instead it created a new person, not related in anyway to the person removed."

 

See this article about how to remove rather than replace objects:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/ 

 

If that doesn't help, then upload the original photo, not a screenshot, to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

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Participant
Jun 5, 2024 3:22 PM UTC

So far it looks excellent. Rarely do I have to move on to the further options. Brilliant!

 

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Participant
Jun 5, 2024 3:14 PM UTC

I have used this new feature several times and find it promising.  I see it as a quicker way to use AI while editing photos (vs flipping to photoshop).  As others have mentioned, it lacks the dialog box to say "remove person and replace with brick wall...," tho I'm sure that feature will arrive at some point.  Sometimes it works beautifully, other times not at all.  Nonetheless, an amazing advancement for those of us who started in a B&W darkroom!

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Participant
Jun 5, 2024 2:27 PM UTC

I am trying generative AI remove in Lightroom Classic. I want to remove a lamp and each time it just gives me a different lamp. It's worked pretty good so far until this! 

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 5, 2024 2:49 PM UTC

@britsphotoco, see this article about how to remove rather than replace objects:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/ 

 

If that doesn't help, then upload the original photo, not a screenshot, to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

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Participating Frequently
Jun 5, 2024 1:44 PM UTC

This has been working for me ok. But when I try to remove a power line, it leaves behind a siltousette. See attached images.

Any ideas, or is this a bug?

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Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
Jun 5, 2024 1:56 PM UTC

You've got a Sky mask that needs updating as the image content has now changed. You should have a little red dot under the Masking tool in the toolstrip to warn you. Settings menu > Update AI Settings is one of the easiest ways to update it. 

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Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
Participating Frequently
Jun 5, 2024 3:20 PM UTC

Thanks Victoria, "Update AI Settings" sorted the issue.

I haven't this meantioned in any of the tutorial videos out there.

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brluigi
Participant
Jun 5, 2024 10:30 AM UTC

Version 13.3.1

AI is still not working

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 5, 2024 3:40 PM UTC

@brluigi: Translation of message, "Generative Erase has failed. We have detected an issue and are unable to complete your request at this time. Try it again later."

 

Sometimes network firewalls on your computer, local network, or ISP mistakenly block LR's network requests. Try the steps described here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-earl...

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brluigi
Participant
Jun 6, 2024 8:40 AM UTC

THANKS SO MUCH, IS NOW FIXED. !!!!!!

i use ESET, so i created a rule for allow conections in and out in firewall. so is done.

now i can use AI 🙂

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Participant
Jun 5, 2024 12:12 AM UTC

I've encountered some problems using the tool.

I used Generative Remove to "repair" some damaged feathers on a birds plumage.

However, afterwords when I applied the AI denoise, the denoise result appeared to use the unrepaired image, rather than the repaired image.   There is also an issue with masks, if there are masks appied over the part of the image to be repaired, you get very strange results, often with dark ghost images.

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Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
Jun 5, 2024 5:51 AM UTC

@markg88076540 

 

The preferred order for editing is: Denoise - Heal (includes Gen Remove) - Crop/Edit - AI Selective edits
If you deviate from that you may have to update some things especially any AI Selective Edits (i.e. use Develop module > Settings > Update AI Settings)

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annah9806974
Participant
Jun 4, 2024 11:41 PM UTC

I just tried it for the first time and it's terrible and ever since the last update even the clone tool is BAD! leaving dark shadow of what was supposed to be removed. I will be going back to my other programs that I acutally buy the disk with no yearly or monthly fees!

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Blackdynamite
Participant
Jun 4, 2024 11:31 PM UTC

it would be super useful if we were able to use some kind of object-aware masking on the refine mask tool. I find that it can be tricky to clean up background behind hair.

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Participant
Jun 4, 2024 11:21 PM UTC

Adorei a ferramenta, mas estou com dificuldade de usar para remover pessoas. Quando uso para remover mais de uma pessoa ela funciona perfeitamente, mas quando uso para remover apenas uma pessoa, ela apenas gera outra pessoa no lugar.

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 5, 2024 6:18 AM UTC

@Katia3784329950h0, see this article for tips on how to remove rather than replace objects:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/ 

 

If that doesn't help, upload the problem photo (the original) to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and paste the sharing link here.

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