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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

Participant
June 2, 2024

Hello, the new AI based "Remove Tool" could be the solution.
I want to remove Tattoos from Skin.
The new Tool does this work on legs very well, but not on Arms or Body.
Makes ADOBE a discrimination or  a censorship?
The pictures I work out, are all my taken by me and I have the full Copyright.
So what is the problem by Adobe?

johnrellis
Legend
June 3, 2024

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@Bochynek2013, interesting. I was able to avoid the scolding error message and remove the tatoos by doing the arms in three sections but the star on the torso all at once:

 

 

Participant
June 2, 2024

No está mal, pero aún falta mejorar, deja marcas de relleno, no acierta siempre.
Mayormente lo uso para rellenar o reemplazar los cables o imperfecciones del entorno.
Acabo de hacerlo con Photoshop y es tremenda la diferencia, en PS casi no se nota los cambios, en LR aún se debe mejorar.
Adjunto observación:

johnrellis
Legend
June 2, 2024

@JorgeHL, had you previously applied AI masks to those areas of the photo?  If so, do Settings > Update AI Settings, and those "filler marks" could go away.  In general, though most settings in the Develop panel can be applied in any order, Remove should be applied before masking.

Known Participant
June 2, 2024

It works really well in many cases, but very often, the algorithm is trying to CREATE something, instead of removing what is highlighted. I tried to remove a folding chair and it put a car into the scene out of nowhere. I keep seeing this happening. It should NOT be a generative fill, it should be a remove tool only.

martin-s9252021
Inspiring
June 3, 2024

I totally agree.

Make it a remove-only tool and leave the replacement option to Photoshop.

Inspiring
June 3, 2024

Yes...but....

Isn't 'remove' always really 'replacement', in that it is creating new "background" to replace what is removed?

Participant
June 2, 2024

I can not get it to work 

Participant
June 2, 2024

Parfait, trés efficaces.

Participant
June 2, 2024

I´ve found some problems with the object deletion in some photos. Lightroom Classic seems sometimes not to want to delete some objects, instead it replaces them with another one. I try to force it but keeps replacing with a new similar object from its library. It doesn´t happen all the time and not even in the same kind of photos.

johnrellis
Legend
June 2, 2024

@jrsforums@eutropsee this article for tips on removing objects instead of replacing them:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

 

If that article doesn't help, upload one of your original photos (not a screenshot) to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar an post the sharing link here. Describe the object you want to remove.

Participant
June 2, 2024

I'm finding that it still does not work too well to remove objects. A lot of time is wasted trying to get it to work.

 

Participating Frequently
June 2, 2024

After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise and was appalled at how slow DeNoise was after using several objects with Generative Remove. I'd rather take the image into Photoshop to remove distractions than to put up with the amount of time to finish my photo in Lightroom.

Inspiring
June 2, 2024

After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise
isn't the recommendation to do AI DeNoise first, before other adjustments?

Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 2, 2024

Yes Denoise then Remove ideally

Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
Participant
June 2, 2024

I love that this is now in LR, which is great for quick fixes.

I do however find that when objects you want removed extend to the edge of the image, this tool does not handle them well. It feels like it thinks that I have not selected all of the pixels despite me using the eraser tool to the edge and beyond. Almost like there is a feathered selection when you get to the edge of the image. I have tried with "Object Aware" turned on and off, without any improvement. I have also tried several varriations of selections and refreshed the results. The problem is persistant.

Heal isn't doing much better. It keeps trying to blend the original color of the object into the final result.

I'll go back to Stamp for this one, but I do not think that most LR users will want to use these tools this way.

I think an improvement would be for us to tell the AI tool we want to "Remove" or "Replace" (or similar).

johnrellis
Legend
June 2, 2024

Using your low-resolution screeshot, Generative AI + Object Aware did a good job of removing the object first try:

 

 

Did you crop the photo first, with the lower-left blob having more pixels out-of-crop?  If so, then as the article above explains, Remove applies to the uncropped image, and will try to match the selected area to the out-of-crop pixels.

 

If that doesn't help, please upload the original image (uncropped) to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar, and post the sharing link here.

 

 

fernandop15496567
Participant
June 2, 2024

Está incrivel, caminhamos para soluções de grande qualidade. Parabéns!