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Rikk Flohr-Retired
Adobe Employee
Jan 22, 2023 3:17 PM UTC
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

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Participating Frequently
Sep 19, 2024 2:29 AM UTC

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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Participating Frequently
Jun 2, 2024 11:44 PM UTC

I like others have been having problems with generative AI remove replacing items, instead of removing them. In some cases making a generous selection has helped but in others it has not. It seems to be worse if something is right along an edge. 

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 3, 2024 12:05 AM UTC

@Gregory Omlor, "It seems to be worse if something is right along an edge. "

 

Are you applying Remove to a cropped photo? It will remove items better if you first apply Remove and then crop.  If you're not cropping first, attach a sample JPEG here showing where it's going wrong.

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Participant
Jun 2, 2024 11:27 PM UTC

Whenever using any Ai tool there is a dark leftover of what was replaced. Use the regeneration to expand your backdrop the whole space that gets genertated just ends up being a dark space. i get the results i need but the only problem is that it'll be sort of darker than the surrounding image making it obvious the image was edited

 

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Participant
Jun 2, 2024 11:08 PM UTC

Hello, the new AI based "Remove Tool" could be the solution.
I want to remove Tattoos from Skin.
The new Tool does this work on legs very well, but not on Arms or Body.
Makes ADOBE a discrimination or  a censorship?
The pictures I work out, are all my taken by me and I have the full Copyright.
So what is the problem by Adobe?

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 3, 2024 12:03 AM UTC

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@Bochynek2013, interesting. I was able to avoid the scolding error message and remove the tatoos by doing the arms in three sections but the star on the torso all at once:

 

 

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Participant
Jun 2, 2024 9:59 PM UTC

No está mal, pero aún falta mejorar, deja marcas de relleno, no acierta siempre.
Mayormente lo uso para rellenar o reemplazar los cables o imperfecciones del entorno.
Acabo de hacerlo con Photoshop y es tremenda la diferencia, en PS casi no se nota los cambios, en LR aún se debe mejorar.
Adjunto observación:

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 2, 2024 10:37 PM UTC

@JorgeHL, had you previously applied AI masks to those areas of the photo?  If so, do Settings > Update AI Settings, and those "filler marks" could go away.  In general, though most settings in the Develop panel can be applied in any order, Remove should be applied before masking.

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Inspiring
Jun 2, 2024 9:38 PM UTC

It works really well in many cases, but very often, the algorithm is trying to CREATE something, instead of removing what is highlighted. I tried to remove a folding chair and it put a car into the scene out of nowhere. I keep seeing this happening. It should NOT be a generative fill, it should be a remove tool only.

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martin-s9252021
Inspiring
Jun 3, 2024 10:38 AM UTC

I totally agree.

Make it a remove-only tool and leave the replacement option to Photoshop.

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Inspiring
Jun 3, 2024 11:11 AM UTC

Yes...but....

Isn't 'remove' always really 'replacement', in that it is creating new "background" to replace what is removed?

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Participant
Jun 2, 2024 8:03 PM UTC

I can not get it to work 

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Participant
Jun 2, 2024 7:57 PM UTC

Parfait, trés efficaces.

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Participant
Jun 2, 2024 5:53 PM UTC

I´ve found some problems with the object deletion in some photos. Lightroom Classic seems sometimes not to want to delete some objects, instead it replaces them with another one. I try to force it but keeps replacing with a new similar object from its library. It doesn´t happen all the time and not even in the same kind of photos.

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 2, 2024 6:13 PM UTC

@jrsforums, @eutrop, see this article for tips on removing objects instead of replacing them:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

 

If that article doesn't help, upload one of your original photos (not a screenshot) to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar an post the sharing link here. Describe the object you want to remove.

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Participant
Jun 2, 2024 3:52 PM UTC

I'm finding that it still does not work too well to remove objects. A lot of time is wasted trying to get it to work.

 

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Participating Frequently
Jun 2, 2024 3:35 PM UTC

After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise and was appalled at how slow DeNoise was after using several objects with Generative Remove. I'd rather take the image into Photoshop to remove distractions than to put up with the amount of time to finish my photo in Lightroom.

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Inspiring
Jun 2, 2024 5:32 PM UTC

After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise
isn't the recommendation to do AI DeNoise first, before other adjustments?

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Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
Jun 2, 2024 6:17 PM UTC

Yes Denoise then Remove ideally

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