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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

Participant
September 17, 2024

Photoshop's remove tool is superior than the one in lightroom in every aspect. 

Joshyi3
Known Participant
September 17, 2024

The new update seems to be a problem lately ........ wassup with this ? 

i keep getting this message whenever i go back to my edit ...... 

Participant
September 17, 2024

realmente me parece una herramienta muy util, estoy apenas familiarilazandome con ella, pero realmente me ha sido muy util. 

Participating Frequently
September 16, 2024

Es gibt immer mehr Funktionen um störende Bildteile zu entfernen, aber an den Bildrändern funktionieren alle nicht. Ich kann benutzen was ich will, das Resultat ist immer schlecht. Erst mit Photoshop funktioniert es zufriedenstellened.  Ich habe mal ein Beispielbild mit allen 4 möglichen Funktionen bearbeitet (siehe Anhang). 
KI ist ja toll, aber so einfache Sachen könnte man doch auch mal fixen, oder mache ich was falsch?

Lightroom Classic  13.5.1 auf MacOS 14.6.1   Aber das Problem ist eigentlich uralt....

Known Participant
September 16, 2024

Your AI image suggests that you applied a sky mask or otherwise adjusted the image before the AI Generative remove - but the AI samples the original sky so you get a ghost image - top photo here is a very quick AI before a sky mask, second is a quick sky mask, third is AI after sky mask showing the ghosts like in your fourth image

Participating Frequently
September 16, 2024

You are right. I wasn't aware of this "limitation". I tried it with an unchanged picture and it worked.  A warning would be nice if the picture was changed before the remove tool.

 

Thank you very much

 

Peter

Participant
September 16, 2024

While editing a photo of a butterfly in a bed of Black-Eyed Susans, I remove a portion of a small blurred branch with leaves. I got one usable edit; however, one of the edits was the production of a complete insect, something like a blue beetle, which had nothing to do with the selected surrounding areas including in the Generative AI.  I don't know how it happened since there is only one butterfly and nothing else but the flowers, the AI generated something out of the blue, with no reference it could use to bring it to the picture.

Arnold-Norway
Known Participant
September 17, 2024

I think it is important to mask the whole subject and a little outside it, to get a good result.  If some of the subjct you want to remove is not masked, Lightroom will try to replace your subjct with something else.

RegardsArnold Hoddevik
Participant
September 16, 2024

Absolutely fabulous....Has saved me hours in editing

 

The three options and the refresh give me dozens optional images.....

Participant
September 15, 2024

After I did the Lightroom Classis update for 13.5.1, the removal and heal only works up until I try to apply or save it...there is no button that does this so it never saves. What is happening? Before the update I had these tools not there is no way to save or apply my changes:

 

Arnold-Norway
Known Participant
September 15, 2024

@christine6760 - Your photo is showing the Heal tool, not the Generative Remove AI. With Heal you just mark the area you want to heal, adjust, and then Close.
If you select Generative Remove AI, and do not check Generative AI or Object Aware checkbox, there is no Apply, just Close
If you check Generative AI or Object Aware checkbox, you will see the button Apply.
This is what it used to be.

RegardsArnold Hoddevik
Participant
September 15, 2024
yeah, I just close and it reverts back to original. Doesn't save or make the change. Thanks

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Participant
September 15, 2024

não gostei, demora demais para gerar e não é eficaz, a versão anterior é muito melhor!

Participant
September 15, 2024

tried to remove two persons with yellow fluorescent jackets from a picture (architecture), but they are not being removed completely, only the legs and  looks like  only transparancy is lowered for the upper part of the body. I would expect especially the bright coloured jackets would be easy to remove due to the contrast

Known Participant
September 16, 2024

Even from the .png it did a pretty good job on a 30 second hack. The only way that I could reproduce the ghosting was by dropping the opacity slider down to 50ish on the Remove Panel as below...?

 

Participant
September 15, 2024

 

I am deeply disappointed in the ham-handed application of misguided censorship by Adobe.  While I recognize that you are intent on pushing toward AI-powered "tools", making the program an unusable minefield of Big Brother-ism is the wrong way to proceed.  I've seen some thoughtful suggestions but without some public response from Adobe it seems like the only way to get our frustrations across is to abandon the platform.

 

 

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