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January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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belcamp george

Known Participant

GGenetative remove on lightroom classic puts something else where I want to remove

sjgruning

Known Participant

Oh my goodness, I am LOVING AI in LR. It is saving me time from going between LRC and PS. THANK YOU ADOBE!!!!!!

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Laura37593636s7ja

Participant

As far as I used it its made its job.

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brandons19841015

Participant

This latest update seems to have critically injured the original, non-generative Heal and Clone tools. They are at least 4x slower to respond, and worse, they cannot be finely adjusted once used. Any relocating of the sample/target areas can only be made in large distances (I'm estimating 15px or more). Trying to align these areas along any kind of edge in an image is now impossible!

Victoria Bampton LR Queen

Community Expert

I'm not seeing this. Are you Mac or Windows? How are you moving them (e.g. mouse, pen, keyboard)?

Victoria - The Lightroom Queen

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brandons19841015

Participant

I am using Windows and trying to drag sample/target areas of the heal and clone tools with a trackball mouse zoomed in 100x-300x. Prior to this update, things could be relocated to the pixel level, but now (no matter how long I click and hold) they only move in jumps of ~15px.

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juliannas88

Participant

So far not too many issues, I am persoanlly not noticing a time lag as comapred with PS genrative fill. I would likely be using this feauture primarily for removing rather than replacing though it would perhaps be beneficial to have a subtract or add feauture as in photoshop which directs the attention of the AI more precidely. I can see an advanced feature allowing for specific replacement of objects through text prompts to be very useful here. Some glitches I've come into thus far, replacing lines (wires/telephone lines, not replacing all the wires, leaving bits of wire in the frame) replacing uniterrupted patterns (ie. fence post/barrier, replacing most of the fence post but then adding what it thinks a fence post might have like a construction sign or industrial looking object) and occassionally removing people (replacing person with an AI genrated person rather than removing the person altogether) For many of these glitches I was able to simply go over the area with the spot tool to refine the desired replacement with fairly good success but other images it feels more difficult to get the replacement to work correctly. Including images below as example where the AI genrative fill wants to replace rather than remove object and this particular example doesn't feel easy to resolve.

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

If the original was cropped, then the resulting image will contain odd items. Therefore, Generative Remove must be carried out before cropping. The same applies to denosie and local AI edits.

Assuming that it's not cropped, and looking at your results, I suspect that you've been a tad precise with your selection/mask. Attached is what I achieved with a fairly rough selection/mask.

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Hard Coder

Known Participant

This also appears to apply to images with profile corrections that have pushed image content off the viewport.

Dave Paul ACS

Participating Frequently

When it comes to removing people from group photos, definitely not ready for prime time. Instead of removing the selected person, it replaces them with a AI-generated pseudo-person, who invariably has a mangled face and hands, but most importantly was not there. If the product is called remove, I'd expect it to remove, not invent and insert randomly generated pseudo-people.

It appears to work fine on removing architectural features, and even in the processed images that include pseudo-people, did a fine job of recreating objects (a stair railing, the leg of someone standing behind, etc.) that were obscured in the original photo.

Readily reproducible, so let me know if you want before and after images.

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

The result you describe is usually due to the selection/mask not being sufficiently generous around element to be removed or shadows/reflections/projections were missed.

Can you provide screenshot of before and after?

Dave Paul ACS

Participating Frequently

This is a cropped portion of the original image, showing the person selected for removal. Object awareness is turned on. You can see that the mask has been expanded well beyond the contours of the selected person. My intent was to remove this person, not to "replace" them with a pseudo-person.

Variation 1 proposed by AI Remove

Variation 2 proposed by AI Remove

Variation 3 proposed by AI Remove

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Doug Good

Participant

Wow! The Generative Remove tool got it right on the first try!

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Golebiowski

Participant

Necesita pulirse. Hecho de menos que la seleccion funcionara como una mascara a la que le puedes ajustar la luz y la difusion del borde ya que en las bajas luces no se mezcla con el fondo.

rolandp72915537

Participant

new classic 13.3 generating feature remove the ability to select the source of cloning or healing when used. I can drag the original source but not the select source to clone or heal.