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January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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Chris37567495av7w

Participant

It appears that the Remove tool is ruined! I can no longer fine tune the placement of the sample area. Is this really the case or am I missing something?

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Law_ren_ce

Participating Frequently

I have the same problem, see a coupl of comments back. It's driving me crazy. But weirdly nobody else is taking about it.

franckh78615933

Participant

Why does a “REMOVE TOOL” persist in creating objects, when we want to use it to DELETE them? Explanation: I want to delete a person in the background, who is in front of some foliage. The tool does delete this person, but replaces him with someone else? I feel like I'm being trolled by the software.

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Mario29200617pdpw

Participant

Let's leave it alone ... a long way to go

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ChrisOgden

Participating Frequently

Experimenting a bit more - very exciting. However, "Synch Settings >> Remove" doesn't seem to work. Across multiple sets of bracketed frames, it says "Lightroom Classic. Skipped x Generative Remove spots" (where x = # of selected frames - 1)

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

The explantion as to how you can copy/paste/sync, etc is given in https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/using/generative-remove-faq.html

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ChrisOgden

Participating Frequently

Hey Ian, great to hear from you - hope you're well! I looked at the link above, and I must be blind, but I don't see anything about sync settings(?)

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ivanw19423

Participant

CREATED A PHANTOM IMAGE - INSTEAD OF THE PERSON WHO WAS REMOVED. REMOVED AN ADULT REPLACED IT WITH A CHILD NOT ORIGINALLY IN THE IMAGE

Nadeem28230335k4xr

Known Participant

I was watching some youtube videos about the latest release that includes the generative AI remove feature, and it was mentioned that once it gets promoted out of early access it will require monthly credits to use.

Does this mean, on top of the subscription price I already pay for the 2tb photography plan, I'll have to pay additional to use this feature?

Victoria Bampton LR Queen

Community Expert

At the moment, it's all still being figured out, so we don't know details. What we can say is credits are already included in your plan (the amount varies by plan), and if you go beyond those credits, it'll still work but slower, even if you don't buy more credits. At the moment, there is no speed penalty even if you use up all your credits.

Victoria - The Lightroom Queen

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Law_ren_ce

Participating Frequently

For some reason, after this update I can't move the source selection of my healing/cloning brush tool, so when I don't use the AI option, just the "old" brush. Normally, you had a tiny button in every circle or shape and you could move them to anywhere: either the source or the destination. Now I can only move the destination around. I hope this isn't a bug and I disabled something by accident. It's driving me crazy. If I want to adjust it, I need to delete the current brush circle and draw a new one, no matter how little I want to move it. It's insane.

Can someone confirm this? Should I report this as a bug?

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Chris37567495av7w

Participant

Same here. Very infuriating and disruipting my workflow 😞

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Luis Perdigão

Participant

Hi.

While trying to apply thge generative remove tool when i click "Apply" after the selection it always returns the error "Generative Remove Failed". The service is not responding. Please check your internet and try again"

I have tried to add Lightroom to the Firewall options and even deactivated the firewall to try.

Can someone help me?

Best regards from Portugal

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ILI HAUS

Participant

Really awesome feature!! I am working in real estate and in Lightroom i merge to hdr and i edit my pictures. I am still waiting Sky Replacement directly in Lightroom Classic, you do not have idea how much time i loose opening each photo in Photoshop to add sky replacement. Please come with a sky replacement and AI based sharpness, is much better than normal sharpness.

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melkman

Participant

Hi,

I experience the same behavior. When selecting something to be removed, it removes the object, but shows a "ghost" of the removed object.

I also think i know why this has happened. I have made 2 masks around this area. If i turn those 2 off, the "ghosting" disappears. Those 2 masks change the color and brightness around this area. In some way the AI uses the wrong "original" data to remove this area.

Lightroom/iMac M3