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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

Participant
May 22, 2024

Excelente! Muy oportuno para mi!!!

Known Participant
May 22, 2024

Bien meilleurs résultats que l'ancien correcteur de lightroom mais,  pour moi,  quand même en dessous du niveau de l'outil supprimer de Photshop

Cotyoran52
Participating Frequently
May 22, 2024

As you know recently Adobe published a new version of Adobe Lightroom Mobile. As a photographer i find a chance to try new version of Lightroom on my iPad. I liked new AI remove feature by the way. But there is an issue regarding, maybe a bug. Sometimes Lightroom "transfroms" the object instead of removing it. For example i have a policeman in a pic and i tried to remove it but software changed it to another Chinese policeman. Funny, but harassing. Maybe a code fix can solve this.

 

Thank you !

Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 22, 2024

Ensure that you've selected the entire object you're trying to remove, along with a little bit of space around it and with its shadow. If you leave a bit behind, the AI tries to rebuild around it. For example, if you remove a bird but leave its shadow, you end up with a different bird.

Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
Participant
May 22, 2024

Generally works really well. The only issue I have come across that sometimes it randomly replaces objects, other times it removes them. How can I tell the software what to do? Most of the times I want to remove distracting objects.

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 22, 2024

Adobe have provided answers to the most common questions at below link.

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/using/generative-remove-faq.html

Participant
May 22, 2024

I love the addition of gen ai to Lightroom but I have one minor issue. There is a clear outlined edge to anything I select after generation. The colors don't match and it's a harsh line. A feather option would be nice for the selection.

Builtwell
Participant
May 22, 2024

I tried in a photo of my wife when she was pregnant. She's showing her belly. And the AI doesn't think is safe enough. Ok - but I then tried to add black on top of her and still didn't work, still thinks is unsafe? What are the workarounds?

Known Participant
May 22, 2024

When I try to eliminate a powerline, or powerlines, with an aurora as a background, AI remove gives me ... powerlines in the fill.

 

Heal is already poor at this; there is too much bleed and this is an *exasperating* chore, but AI remove does not work at all, before or after the recent update (just updated today before trying again).

 

You would think that powerline removal would be working well in many use cases by now, but LR is just as bad at removing powerlines over aurora today as it was the first time I tried it when Heal was first implemented.

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 22, 2024

With AI Remove, you need to ensure that the entire powereline is selected/masked. If you leave anything unselected/masked, then there a high probability that the powerline will be replaced with itself or similar. I've attached an example of a failure and success below.

 

 

 

Participant
May 22, 2024

Today I tried using the generative removal tool to remove an object from a black and white photo. I found that after the removal, the shadow of the object was still included. So, it seems that the generative removal tool might not be fully effective in black and white effects.

 

Participant
May 22, 2024

I reverted the photo to color mode, but it still couldn’t complete the removal work, so it turns out the issue wasn’t related to black and white.

I think I know the reason. The generative removal tool makes modifications based on the original image. If your photo has undergone mask selection adjustments, it won’t be able to perform generative removal according to the existing layers.

 

Participant
May 22, 2024

I think you hit the nail on the head. The gen ai appears to be using the base image without adjustments. If they moved the generated images to just above the base layer, maybe our adjustments would work and not have noticeable differences.

Participant
May 22, 2024

With the new version it's impossible to move the reference used to clone IA desactivate or not.  

Averil2
Known Participant
May 22, 2024

I have tried twice the generative AI remove tool in LR Classic and both times it didn't work. I selected the object to remove and also selected the shadows and a little extra.

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