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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

Participant
May 21, 2024

It is a really great feature. I just have one comment. For professional photographers like me, who apreciate every detail; the resolution of the generated pixels is insuficient. Maybe, you could improve the resolution of the generative AI, because with high megapixel cameras, it could be seen a little bit fake or bad editted.

Participant
May 21, 2024

does not remove objects - only transform them a bit

jenib16864625
Participant
May 21, 2024

God results with Generative Remove for removing 3/ 4 of the background , I have used the 5th variant- almoe perfect.

jensm57282784
Participant
May 21, 2024

It´s not what it appears to be.It´s too slowly,and many times it doesn´t work,so no,it´s too bad.

Participating Frequently
May 21, 2024

Bonjour, mes premiers essais sont désastreux. Probablement que je l'utilise mal J'ai tenté de supprimer une tasse clairement définie sur l'image et il l'a remplacé par je ne sais trop quoi, peut-être une partie du gâteau situé juste à côté. J'ai aussi tenté de supprimer un petit bocal et au lieu de le supprimer, il l'a remplacé par une autre tasse probablement trouvée dans une photo trouvé par IA.  Je continue mon expériementation.

Participating Frequently
May 21, 2024

Mes 2e essais sont presques pires. Je demande de supprimer un objet très bien défini dans la photo et il remplace l'objet par autre chose que IA semble avoir puisé dans ses photos alors que ce que je lui demande c'est de supprimer l'objet tracé au masque avec le pinceau. ??? Des conseils SVP

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 21, 2024

@photo2703  Make sure you are selecting cast shadows of the object you are removing, as well as reflections, and any discontinuous pieces.

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
jensm57282784
Participant
May 21, 2024
It's not what it appears to be. It's too long, and many times it doesn't work, so no, it's too bad.
Participant
May 21, 2024

The replacement is very visible if tonal adjustments have already been made to the image ....... why can't the tonal adjustments also be applied to the patched area (or make that an option)? The content of the replacement is good, but because the lighting is different, it is very visible.

Participating Frequently
May 21, 2024

This tool is quite amazing... not perfect but amazing. I have run into issues when using the tool to remove power lines with a blue sky background. But all in all a very welcome addition to Lightroom.

Known Participant
May 21, 2024

Very happy to see this tool in LR Classic! Unfortunately my first experience was not too good. I tried to remove an orange snack bag from a table scene, and no matter how many times I refreshed, it continued to give me different orange objects in place of the snack bag. I never got a variation which just showed the table with the bag removed, which is what I would hope a remove or erase tool would do. When using a tool to remove a distraction, I always want the distraction gone, not replaced with a different distraction. If I want something different, I'll go to Photoshop and type in what I want. It would be great if the remove feature focused on removing things.

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 21, 2024

@NicoleYM  That sounds like you aren't selecting the bag's cast shadow also. Is that possible?

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Known Participant
May 22, 2024
Rikk,

> @NicoleYM
> <>
> That sounds like you aren't selecting the bag's cast shadow also. Is
> that possible?
I definitely selected both the shadow and the reflection. After I got
your message, I played around with the same image some more, each time
making a larger selection. Once I had a pretty enormous selection around
the object, it finally relented and removed it. But my selection was
vastly larger than any shadow or reflection. In my opinion, you should
be removing the object, whether or not a reflection/shadow has been
selected. I don't think a remove tool should ever create a brand new
object. If people aren't careful about including shadows and reflections
in their selection, that's an artistic (or amateur) choice they're
making. I personally always want the remove tool to remove.

Thanks!
Nicole.
Known Participant
May 21, 2024

Hello,

Just started to play with the Lightroom Classic updates. Like Photoshop, I would like to be able to see the generated variations without having to toggle thru them.

 

Thanks

 

Stu