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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

Participant
May 21, 2024

Not too bad. Photoshop still better. See outline marks on the removed object, which Photoshop does not leave in it's current iteration. So, not as smooth yet. But it's a great first step. I can't wait for this to get as good as the version in Photoshop.

Participant
May 21, 2024

An excellent tool, but I encountered some items that Remove AI didn’t work on. For example, I tried to remove a hat from a photo and received a message saying that remove had failed, instructing me to check the tool’s guidelines. I didn’t understand why, as it was just a simple hat on a wooden log. 😊
See the photo added.

Participant
May 21, 2024

 

Para mim não funcionou. O que fazer quando exibe esse erro em anexo? 

Rick Spaulding -
Legend
May 21, 2024

Error message translation...

"Generative Removal Failure
We have encountered a problem and are unable to complete your request at this time. Try again later."

torstenv58075562
Participating Frequently
May 21, 2024

I had the same problem, but after restarting the PC (Windows 11) the problem was solved.

Participant
May 21, 2024

Very Nice, TY Adobe 

Participant
May 21, 2024

Great feature. The initial selection removed the object almost completely. Hitting the REFINE button did further processing and the end result was VERY GOOD. AMAZING.

Participant
May 21, 2024

The tool is a remove tool, but it replace what i want removed with something else, why?

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 21, 2024

@charlesf1182519  Make sure you are selecting any shadows, reflections or disconnected components as well as the object you are trying to remove.  Example:  If you take out a person but not their shadow, the AI will assume that something else needs to cast the shadow....

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Participant
May 31, 2024

This is the solution for all those "it's replacing - not removing" issues. Sometimes it can be a very faint relection or shadow, but that's all it takes.

SuperFabe
Known Participant
May 21, 2024

Does (or will) use of the new generative remove count toward the Adobe credits that were introduced earlier?

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 21, 2024

@SuperFabe 

Generative Credits are required for Generative Remove, but at this time, Adobe is not enforcing credits for paying customers. More info can be found here: https://helpx.adobe.com/firefly/using/generative-credits-faq.html 

I would expect this to apply while the feature is in "Early Access"

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
SuperFabe
Known Participant
May 22, 2024

Thanks for the response. I thought that might be the case. As a paying customer of the full suite, how can I send my feedback on this credit system to Adobe?

Inspiring
May 21, 2024

Hello,

Generative removal does not yet work well on lights reflected on glass, as they are transparent. Is it possible to improve the cancellation of reflected lights?
Regards

Participant
May 21, 2024

It seems to struggle slightly with items in focus against a blurred background - I've just tried it on images of flowers with stalks nearby that I want to remove. After a great many attempts on one image, it eventually removed the stalk and put a fly in its place - and I defintely selected subtract. Whats more, I swear the fly is looking at the camera - a bit of a photobomb. This AI has a sense of humour?! This is literally my first play with it and it looks cool - going to look for images to mess with. It would be nice if one could choose whether the Add or Subtract option is the default.

Participant
May 21, 2024

Hate it! A simple spot removal that used to take a second now takes several minutes to process. Totally unacceptable.

Please put it back the way it was.

 

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 21, 2024

@silversnaps  I would not be using Generative Remove for a simple spot.

None of the existing tools were removed. I recommend using the previous Heal/Clone/Remove tools for simple spots and leaving Generative AI off.   They are very different tools for very different purposes. 

Here is a nice guide: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/using/generative-remove-faq.html 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org