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August 8, 2019
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Switching between Kelvin and -100 - +100

  • August 8, 2019
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So I want to make preset packs to sell on my wesbsite but I have now realized why my presets never turn out right. Since I am taking photo photos in raw I am adjusting the temperature in kelvin scale. whenever I make a preset it is just saving kelvin value and applying that to other photos instead of just adding 35 percent sometimes adding a specific kelvin to a photo increases the temperature by like 400 %.I just want to make presets where i can know that the preset will consistently raise the temperature up by +25 like you would with a  jpeg file. Anyone know how I can use that style of the temperature slider?

Thanks! Max

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    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    August 8, 2019

    maxwellg2013  wrote

    So I want to make preset packs to sell on my wesbsite but I have now realized why my presets never turn out right. Since I am taking photo photos in raw I am adjusting the temperature in kelvin scale. whenever I make a preset it is just saving kelvin value and applying that to other photos instead of just adding 35 percent sometimes adding a specific kelvin to a photo increases the temperature by like 400 %.I just want to make presets where i can know that the preset will consistently raise the temperature up by +25 like you would with a  jpeg file. Anyone know how I can use that style of the temperature slider?

    Thanks! Max

    The other reason why it doesn't work is that Kelvin values define a large range of possible colors and each camera will provide a differing metadata suggestion making the possible colors even farther apart. The concept of altering WB like this is rather pointless as -100 is ambiguous and the settings should be done visually, NOT numerically to provide a pleasing rendering from each raw.

    More about this from a colorimetric standpoint:

    http://digitaldog.net/files/22Thecolorofwhite.pdf

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 8, 2019

    Question-

    Knowing that the OP wants to sell presets-

    Would the OP achieve a similar WB adjustment on both JPG and RAW images with a suitable Tone Curve Preset?

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.0, Photoshop 27.0, ACR 18.0, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0 .
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    August 9, 2019

    WobertC  wrote

    Question-

    Knowing that the OP wants to sell presets-

    Would the OP achieve a similar WB adjustment on both JPG and RAW images with a suitable Tone Curve Preset?

    Probably not. The data is hugely different.

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    JohanElzenga
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 8, 2019

    You can do this with a Graduated filter. Add a graduated filter and drag it all the way down, so that the filter covers the entire image. Set Temperature to +25 and save this as a new preset.

    -- Johan W. Elzenga
    Participant
    August 8, 2019

    Thats certainly a creative way around the problem I might just do that unless there is an easier way get the relative slider on RAW files.

    JohanElzenga
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    August 8, 2019

    In the Quick Develop panel of the Library module, you can make relative changes to all kinds of develop sliders by clicking the buttons. I don’t know how much one click will add to the Temperature, but you can check that with a jpeg image. Applying a preset is one click however, so I don’t think there is an ‘easier way’ than that.

    -- Johan W. Elzenga
    99jon
    Genius
    August 8, 2019

    It’s by design. Kelvin scale is only used for raw files. For jpegs, tiffs etc. adjustments are relative. These files, unlike raw, don’t have color temperature values recorded because white balance is already “baked in” and Lightroom detects this automatically.

    Participant
    August 8, 2019

    Yes I know this, I mentioned this in my post. I am asking how to change it so I can use a relative slider on RAW files as well because it works better when making presets.