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TGR74
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February 7, 2020
Question

Tethering will not rotate per "same as previous" option.

  • February 7, 2020
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Hi,  Every time I tether to Lightroom, if I am shooting with my camera facing straight down (for tabletop food shots) the images absolutely will not come in with the correct rotation & they seem to rotate randomly from one shot to the next with zero camera movement.  That would be just about fine if Lightroom would allow me to apply the correct rotation and then apply it to each new shot per the "same as previous" option.  It seems to apply every other LR adjustment except for rotation.  I have tried this with my camera set to "auto-rotate" on as well as off and I have tried it where that is to camera, camera and computer and computer alone.  None of these methods solve the problem.   Any solve to this is incredibly appreicated because I am stumped!! 

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    AdamNigro
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    August 12, 2023

    Hello, since nobody was able to properly answer your question since you first asked 3 years ago,  I thought I would chime in with a solution that works. Set up your camera as you would for the top-down/birds eye shot. Take a photo. It will come into lightroom as a horizontal photo. Then, rotate your camera so you're almost taking a photo of the wall, and snap another pic. It will come into lightroom as a vertical. Resposition your camera for the top down shot you had originally and take a photo. Bam, all following photos will now be in vertical.

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    oz@n
    Participating Frequently
    January 22, 2023

    i have the similar issue. while shooting tethered flatlay images come as horizontal where i need them vertical. i cant make "same as previous" to copy the rotation. i need to rotate 90 CCW after every shot manually which is very annoying. 

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      TGR74Author
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      January 22, 2023

      All of these years later I'm still having the same problem.  It is crazy to me that it's not resolved yet.  It makes no sense that the "same as previous" ignores crop and rotation which at least would be a workaround. 

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      Oliver5C60
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      January 30, 2024

      It's absolutely crazy to me how they don't fix it... this is one of the main reasons I am considering switching to CaptureOne. I had a client on the shoot constantly tilting his head side ways to see the photo and then waiting for me to manually batch rotate them each time.... so annoying and so time consuming .... why can't i just set up a rotation once and the "same as previous" take care of the rest of the images coming in right rotation?   

        johnrellis
        johnrellis
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        February 14, 2020

        Also, you should definitely submit a feature request. LR is a little schizoid about whether the rotation and flip commands are "develop settings". They get Auto-Synced, but they aren't copied by Copy Settings/Sync, they can't be set by presets, and they don't show up in the History panel.

         

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          TGR74Author
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          January 22, 2023

          how do I submit a feature request?  I'm in LR now, went tot he help tab and I don't see any way to do it? 

          johnrellis
          johnrellis
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          February 14, 2020

          Any Crop doesn't solve the particular issue with "same as previous" not copying the rotation but it could provide a better workaround. You described the issue as "the images ... absolutely will not come in with the correct rotation & they seem to rotate randomly from one shot."  While you can use Auto-Sync to batch correct the session, that's fussy, since you have to select just those photos that are rotated and rotate them back.  Any Crop can make that correction faster -- just select all the photos in the session (whether they're correctly rotated or not) and do Set Rotation.

           

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          johnrellis
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          February 14, 2020

          See my reply to your other post for a workaround: 

          https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic/feature-request-lightroom-classic/m-p/10923950#M176794

           

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          TGR74Author
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          February 14, 2020

          thank you John!  I clicked the link but it appears to be addressing batch rotation which I haven't had an issue with.  I'm trying to find a way to automatically apply rotation while tethering per the "same as previous " setting. 

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            richardplondonCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            February 7, 2020

            Almost certainly, if this is going to remain a frequent problem, you can turn off image auto-rotation in the camera menu.

             

            In LR, to change rotation for multiple images together, highlight them (in Filmstrip or in Grid view). Click the little switch next to Sync. This puts LR into AutoSync mode, whereby any new change (such as clicking the clockwise rotate button) will get applied to them all. 

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              TGR74Author
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              February 7, 2020

              Thank you Richard!  I know how to batch rotate but are you saying it will also rotate new images as they come from the camera? That is what I'm hoping for. 

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                richardplondonCommunity Expert
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                February 11, 2020

                Your issue as I understand it, was unwanted rotation: the camera's orientation sensor applying different rotations from shot to shot, arbitrarily, when pointed more or less straight down. No camera can reliably guess what you want for rotation, in such circumstances - the same, when pointed more or less straight up. That common in rostrum copying, scientific work, etc. My suggestion was to set the camera, in such cases, to ignore whatever its orientation sensor might be reporting. Then all photos show the same consistent orientation natively.

                 

                The convenience cost of setting the camera this way, is that when you point the camera sideways, photos taken in portrait orientation will not automatically appear the way round. Everything's natively left as the camera took it. So you would then need to turn all the portrait shots the right way round yourself, e.g. after import to LR.

                 

                There may be a user custom mode (C1, C2..) which can be set without auto orientation, and then used just for these special circumstances.

                 

                Or (simplest) use Auto Sync to turn shots in the batch as needed. 

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