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August 17, 2021
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P: Photoshop 3D features are being removed

  • August 17, 2021
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As of Photoshop 22.5, released in August 2021, Photoshop’s 3D features will be discontinued. 3D features have enjoyed long success within Photoshop over the course of  10+ years, however the personal computing industry has recently been transitioning away from use of OpenGL  (having to do specifically with the use of GPUs, which is critical for 3D) toward native GPU APIs, which ultimately began the slow deterioration of Photoshop’s 3D features, all of which needed OpenGL. As difficult of a decision as removing 3D features from Photoshop is, the silver lining is that the next generation of 3D content creation tools from Adobe is already here. Check out the Substance line of 3D products.

 

For more details, please visit Photoshop discontinued 3D Q&A.

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    JARFAT
    Participant
    October 26, 2021

    Dear Adobe Employee,
    show me the posibility of *.obj file import into the Substance 3D Designer or any other Substance family app. If cannot, it is not the replacement for removed 3D Photoshop functionality and we are not able to creat our own 3D objects, any more.
    If you know some option, share and beat all the Adobe support team, with one good answer to the question asked 12 times.

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    JARFAT
    Participant
    October 26, 2021

    show me the 2D to 3D basing on vectors, functionality

    Ussnorway7605025
    Ussnorway7605025
    Legend
    October 26, 2021

    another good option to Blender is Sketchup ... when it comes to actually making models

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    Tanja2014
    Inspiring
    October 26, 2021

    i guess all the actions coder who sell actions will be very happy that their actions will not work anymore when using removed features.

    and the customers who bought these actions will also be extremely happy.

     

    type 3D and displacement functionality is removed too right?

     

    it´s always nice to see that adobe creates an utter mess for their users with each new update.

     

    but we have the youtube clowns who praise every new version and barely cover the negative parts.....

     

      hectorch
      hectorch
      Participating Frequently
      October 26, 2021

      I am watching the keynote right now and your comment is funny. plus the 1:22 into the keynote reminds me of Quixel Bridge free to use on Unreal Engine. Yeah Adobe, I am looking at other options and heavily focusing on Unreal Engine now. Substance creation is free by adobe but needs a 3D plan now? 

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      Tanja2014
      Inspiring
      October 26, 2021

      adobe basically blames innovation for it.

      they used OpenGL.. OpenGL now sucks (adobes words in the FAQ why they removed 3D from PS) and they have no intention to use a "better" API.

       

      that is basically what they give as explanation for removing 3D from photoshop.

      subscription rocks!

       

      you can buy another subscription for the recently aquired substance 3D apps.

       

        hectorch
        hectorch
        Participating Frequently
        October 26, 2021

        I am now focusing on Unreal Engine for all my 3D renders and what ever else Unreal Engine can handle video effects you name it. Plus its free! Sorry adobe. I was excited to see the resurection of a long time name Dimensions but it def lacked a bit more control. if the force to use Substance with subscription is the new direction... eeek sorry to say i'll invest my learning of Unreal Engine moving forward. Blender/Cinema4D.

          hectorch
          hectorch
          Participating Frequently
          October 25, 2021

          WOW thats horrid, well kinda glad i never got into this as part of my workflows for anything... tried once or twice but was too slow what could have been done in after effects. sounded like a nice thought to have a 3D layer you can adjust the angle of but I guess its too late now. Also Agree with some now I have to spend more to get Substance side package.. I was forcing myself to get used to Dimensions being back YAY but ugh its now gone to Substance (Thank you Adobe...) that app did need a bit more control features but still got the wrk odne if you figured out a workaround patch... I am not upgrading to substance at all thanks for the thought i'' force myself to re-learn Cinema4D again wish i had never stopped. no longeer wasting my time learning any other adobe 3d app in fear it might be removed or later converted to charge. On Adobe staff that worked effortlessly to get the 3D feature in PhotoShop thank you for breaking the norm.

           

          Oh My other issue anyone else having transform handles dissapearing on them or not showing up when command + T keys are hit? then you move the layer content and the content visual on screen not the layer panel dissapear and you have to zoom out and in or zoom out and move the layer to see where the layer contents are at? I just removed 25.xxxx going back to 24 never had that issue with transform handles or layer content dissapearing. annoying to have to move, zoom out in to reveal your layer contents back. I had an Adobe tech go in my mac last time previous incriment update and turn off something that fixed it now its back with current update to this date of post and i turned off performance and all 3 new scale up feature detials and the other two items in that and still wont fix it.

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          natural_Odyssey5ECF
          Participant
          October 25, 2021

          Hi,

           

          Looking for some guidance due to the reshuffle of photoshops 3D features.

          As part of our work we use Photoshop to manipulate photography with 3D elements shaped as signage. This way we can create an indication of how the new signage element(logo) would look like in the current situation. These 3d elements are either provided by the client or made by us in Photoshop. 

           

          What would be the propossed new way of working when i would like to manipulate a picture using a 3d shaped element?

          We could create the elements in substance or blender for example but since we also need to remove all the old elements in the picture we would need a program to bring the cleaned up picture (photoshop file) and the 3d element (blender or substance) together as the new visual. This is what we used to in photoshop.

          Thanks in advance for your help.

          Kind regards,

          Robin Mentink

          Ussnorway7605025
          Ussnorway7605025
          Legend
          October 25, 2021

          if you want to stay with Adobe you could use Stagger... worth the extra $ depends who you ask?

           

          ref = https://community.adobe.com/t5/dimension-discussions/introducing-adobe-substance-3d-stager-and-dimension-update/td-p/12133140

           

          I'd move on to Blender or Iclone but one takes a long time to learn and the other is Windows only

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          natural_Odyssey5ECF
          Participant
          October 26, 2021

          Thank you! Started playing around with dimensions since i dont need all the features of substance.

          Will transition once we've got the know of dimensions though

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          I SHELDER5EBD
          Participant
          October 24, 2021

          that's pretty sad, 3d was a very handy thing

           

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            defaultynual47p1t70
            Participant
            October 11, 2021

            Question regarding depth mapping, retro red/blue lense anaglyph image creation, and the rest. 

             

            I've been trying for a few days to find a good way of replicating the effect seen in the below tutorial:
            https://www.joshuaellingson.com/news/2017/6/29/redblue-3d-art-with-photoshop

             

            This tutorial relies heavily on the "new mesh from layer" and "postcard" features to create a depth mapped anaglyph, and I have had no luck finding other ways to recreate this effect. 

             

            Any reccomendations on ways to recreate this effect, or which one of the new 3D programs would be able to do so? Finished design is for print, not 3D rendering.

             

            Before you ask I have already attempted rolling back to version 22.2 (3D options are still greyed out except for the link to buy the new programs) and deactivating the native canvas. Neither have had any effect and our IT is sumped as well. Quite frustrated.

            rayek.elfin
            rayek.elfin
            Legend
            October 12, 2021

            This is easily achieved in Blender. A couple of addons do simplify setting up a scene for printed anaglyph image creation, however.

            1. download Blender from Blender.org.
            2. In the Preferences (Edit-->Preferences-->Addons) activate the Import-Export: Import Images as Planes addon.
            3. To simplify the camera to print setup, download and install this Render to Print addon:
              https://developer.blender.org/T68590
            4. Next, select the camera in your scene and reset the rotation (Object-->Clear-->Rotation, Alt-R). This points the camera downwards. It is also a good idea to clear the position (Location) at this point. The camera will point down to the center of the scene.
            5. Now import all the images. File-->Import--> Images As Planes. Select all the images that you would like to import in the scene.
              Set the Material settings to Emit. Choose Camera in the plane dimensions. Face to the camera and activate Track Camera as well.
              Play around and experiment with the various settings.
            6. Switch to the rendered view (fourth small ball icon at the top right  of the viewport). The images should now be displayed.
            7. Switch to the camera view: press numpad 0.
            8. to change the camera to a print setup, open the Output Properties (small icon of a printer in the properties panel). If you activated the print addon, there should be a Render To Print area where various print presets may be selected. After picking one, hit the Apply Print to Render button. The camera changes size accordingly.
            9. reposition the camera and the image planes.
            10. In the Output properties (small camera icon/tab in the properties panel) activate the Stereoscopy option.
            11. Select the camera, and new stereoscopy options become available in the camera properties. Play with these settings until you are happy. The 3d effect is viewable in the viewport. Put on a set of anaglyphic red-green glasses to test.
              It is possible of course to include real 3d objects in your scene as well, instead of mere flat planes.
            12. To render the final image, hit the F12 key. If you render with Eevee (the default) it should take a second, or so, to produce the final image.

             

            Let me know if you have questions. You will have to learn the basics of Blender and navigating a 3d scene to be able to follow along here.

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              w5EF9
              Known Participant
              October 8, 2021

              my subscription says i have acces to all Adobe apps but cant seem to find Substance on there please tell me after removing my 3d features your not expecting me to pay to get them back?

                davescm
                Community Expert
                davescmCommunity Expert
                Community Expert
                October 8, 2021

                The CC subscription covers all CC apps. It has never included all Adobe apps.

                Dave

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                w5EF9
                Known Participant
                October 8, 2021

                great news!! do you know how i can turn off atomatic updates i cannot update to photoshop 22.5 i need my 3d working in photoshop

                  Amelia Wysocki
                  Amelia Wysocki
                  Inspiring
                  October 6, 2021

                  The silver lining for you would be, "sold seperatly". That's disapointing.

                  "Amelia the Neek" Wysocki
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                    A.L.5E2E
                    Known Participant
                    October 7, 2021

                    Extremely. Hardly a silver lining I would say.

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                      MarkTo
                      Known Participant
                      September 21, 2021

                      Its a shame - but Being completely frank, Photoshops 3D features were never properly designed. And by they finally accepted that.

                       

                      The mistake they made was this: Most Photoshop users did indeed need 3D features within the app. Just not in the way they were implemented. …

                       

                      What 3D features Photoshop users DO NEED  … 

                      There's always one single 'plane of view' for 98% of people working in Photoshop . One vanishing point, one camera angle, various sources of lighting, but those are all fixed. So for the 3D elements to be created to fit within an existing still image -what Photoshop needed was a way of establshing those as fixed perameters, and it be made possible to work within those as a base. If this approach had been taken from the outset, you would have got something people could use, and would have found useful. 

                       

                      The 3D finctionality was seemingly designed by those with only a 3D backround, no knowledge of the esisting Photoshop interface layering system, how powerful it was. So they were created a world apart. And therefore became impenetrable for most. In addtion, sorry to say, but some of the inteface decisions were crazily unimaginaitve and cludgy, which kept most people away. You dont need multiple cameras, shifting vanishing points, all existing in multiple objects that are at odds with the layering structure. It was slow, clunky. rendering times were impossible and it was full of bugs.

                       

                      That said Adobe still need to honor ist existing subcribers and customers, and permanently provide an oder version of the software in which you can run the old 3D.

                       

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                        A.L.5E2E
                        Known Participant
                        October 7, 2021
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                        That said Adobe still need to honor ist existing subcribers and customers, and permanently provide an oder version of the software in which you can run the old 3D.

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                        By @MarkTo

                         

                        Very much this - but somehow I don't see it happening.

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