Skip to main content
G
ghpots
Participant
January 2, 2019
Question

Rebuilding Catalog

  • January 2, 2019
  • 3 replies
  • 574 views

I lost my catalog and am rebuilding it.  I imported about 20K images with no problem.  I think imported about 18K from an external drive and all of them were added to the catalog BUT they all show with the HOURGLASS.  When I click on the HOURGLASS the image will appear but none of the others will.  I have broken the 18K down into 6K groups but that did not seem to help.  The system has handled 6K images before so memory should not be an issue.  Sometimes PS will produce the thumbnails but, if I click on them, even those will revert to the HOURGLASS.  Essentially they go from visible to not visible although they are still there.

This happened with the last importation of images.  Before this everything worked just fine.  The images exist, they are in the catalog,  I just can't get the thumbnails to show up when I open that group.

Any idea what I am doing wrong?

This topic has been closed for replies.

3 replies

Greg_S.
Community Expert
Greg_S.Community Expert
Community Expert
January 2, 2019

Try going to Details view (Ctrl+D).  I'm guessing that since you are in the Adaptive view, the thumbnails have to change all the time because of the way Adaptive view draws the screen. 

MichelBParis
MichelBParis
Legend
January 2, 2019

Greg_S.  wrote

Try going to Details view (Ctrl+D).  I'm guessing that since you are in the Adaptive view, the thumbnails have to change all the time because of the way Adaptive view draws the screen. 

I agree with trying the details view, but I think there is more to the present issue than the classical thumbnails rebuilding.

Photoshop Elements (PSE) knowledge base.

The thumbnail building requires reading all files (including conversion of raw files and application of settings), which can be very fast... or not. The result is that two much reduced images are stored in the cache, an sqlite database named Thumb.5.cache (max 360 x 240 pixels). There should be no display of the hourglass to display the thumbnails in another grid.

New factors in PSE2019 may be:

- new system requirements: 8 GB RAM instead of 4

- more "automatic" features in the background

- location of the catalog and the library, type of drive?

or changes in the OS version?

G
ghpotsAuthor
Participant
January 2, 2019

The problem seems to be related to the number of thumbnails PS is trying to access.  It seems to be much better if it only accesses 4-8 at at a time.  Don't know if this helps the experts or not.

Greg_S.
Community Expert
Greg_S.Community Expert
Community Expert
January 2, 2019

It can take a very long time for the thumbnails to generate.  Just let the program sit overnight and the thumbnails should re-generate.  Are any of your media raw files or video?  I believe these take even longer to generate the thumbnails.  If you want to work on a particular group of photos, you can select the group and hit Ctrl+Shift+U to manually update the thumbnails.

Since this is a new catalog, there may also a lot of auto-analysis that is going on in the background.  What version are you using?

G
ghpotsAuthor
Participant
January 2, 2019

Thanks Greg but this has been going on for several days.  One thing I just noticed was that regardless of which "Event Tag" I click on the total number of images that PS seems to be sorting is 71K and not just those associated with the "Event".

Example:  Tag = Africa.  Total images = 2613  Results:  All show as clear thumbnails regardless of the number of images on the monitor.

Example:  Tag = Resort 1   Total images = 2939  Results:  No images show BUT if I only have 3 images in a line on the monitor they will show BUT only those that actually fill up the screen.  If I scroll up or down I get the hourglass.  If I go back to the original images I viewed a few seconds before they have reverted to the hour glass.

I have changed the cache to 2500 MB but that does not seem to have helped.

The system does not seem to recognize the "Tags" as a Stand-alone item.  I think it sorts them out of the larger catalog but still is thinking about the entire catalog which may gum up memory.

Any thoughts?

G
ghpotsAuthor
Participant
January 2, 2019

The thumbnails show in the screen shot below will very quickly convert to the Hour glass.  You see the conversion process going on in this screen shot.

Terms & ConditionsAccessibility statement
Using the community Terms of use Privacy Cookie preferences Do not sell or share my personal information ad choicesAdChoices