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March 9, 2022
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Changing the Colour Interpretation of Merged Clips

  • March 9, 2022
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Hi There,

 

having a nightmare at the moment with a picture locked offline edit of 2 half hour broadcast shows that have now fallen victim to the new colour management update in Premiere 22. One show shot on a Sony FX6 and the other on an FX9. The older show had been rough cut late last year before the update when it was still v15 and when i open up the project on 22 its getting blown out like a double LUT has been applied. Did some research and found out about the issue and reverted back to 15 and picked up and rebuilt the sequence. So good so far. The 2nd sequence shot on teh FX9 in Slog edited in a v22 project was displaying correctly up until today when i reopened to export and found the same issue. All of my working files were processed in Premiere with non-sync sound and merged to give synced rushes with proxies etc. I can select all of the raw material in the project and right click - interpret footage and change the colour management overide to rec709 which displays the original footage correctly on a rec709 timeline. However my merged clips are all still being misinterpreted as HLG and the option to interpret footage and colour overide are greyed out for the merged clips. The sync timeline i used to create the merged clips from is displaying correctly.

 

My question is - without having to start from scratch or recreate all of the merged clips and proxies and rebuild the timeline is there any way to get around this? I'm going to have to export for Online in the next week as well as for sound mix and could be doing without starting form scratch so to speak.

 

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

Running Premiere v 22.2.0(Build 128) on an iMac Late 2015 4GHz Quad-Core i7, 32 GB Ram, AMD Radeon R9 on MacOS Monterey 12.2.1

 

Using 4k rushes shot in Cine-EL on a Sony FX6 and FX9.

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Inspiring
July 8, 2022

"Merged Clips" is an endless source of pain in Premiere. IMHO they should overhaul this functionality or get rid of it entirely. 

 

The UX logic behind merged clips is flawed, you shouldn't be able to make copies of clips which loose the reference to the original clips in the way "Merged Clips" allows you to do it.

Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Community Expert
July 8, 2022

@tinkthank av berlin 

 

Merging picture with sound recorded on a different device is an important post-production feature.  Bugs should be reported and, hopefully, addressed in a timeline manner.

Inspiring
July 8, 2022

I am fully aware it is a very important feature. Unfortunately it does not work at all in Adobe Premiere and this is not a new problem, it had been the same for years.

 

As a workaround, because there is no "good" way, people use nested sequences and multicamera clips to work around the horrible "Merged Clips" functionality.

 

I have been using premiere on and off for at least 20 years, in the beginning it was the lack of omf/AAF export functionality that was a deal breaker for using premiere in a professional environment, now it is the lack of a good workflow for productions that use external sound.

 

I am at a point where I believe adobe doesn't care about this target group. For me, I love premiere, but I would never edit a feature or long documentary project with it's for this specific reason.

SMWhitehead
Participating Frequently
July 6, 2022

Would love to know any progress on a fix here - got exactly the same issue and having to redo work now against a deadline...

 

Adobe please don't make 'smart' features that can't be overidden. Software 101 surely.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
July 6, 2022

You have media from which cameras? Trying to keep a rough track of which ones are still not working well in Pr.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
SMWhitehead
Participating Frequently
July 7, 2022

Sony FX9 (Slog3 cine) - the source file can be overidden, but there are merged clips within the edit that have had to all be remade and recut - when they were originally made the color space was correct. Then returning to the edit they had changed.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 9, 2022

John,

 

In the public beta, they now have options in the Modify/Interpret Footage "Override to __" section for several Sony and Panny log formats, including S-log3/S-gamut3.cine ... so you should probably go test that option out.

 

Neil

 

 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participant
March 10, 2022

Neil,

 

Thank you so much for your suggestions and hints. I might send you a file via wetransfer and take you up on your test offer. I'll download and install the Beta now and have a look if it makes any difference. If there's no joy there i was wondering if its possible to export an edl from Premiere 22 to use in Permiere 15? Not sure if it would work or not.

 

Ill post a wetransfer link shortly. Thanks again everyone for all the replies.

 

John

R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 10, 2022

I'll await that link. Have some things to start off with this morning, but should be able to get to it today.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 9, 2022

That's a bummer ... but I don't know any way to get the S-log3.cine really working well with Pr2022. Other than exporting all the clips from the bin, so they retain the file names, with the "SDR Conform" option checked in the Export dialog's Effects tab. Then you will probably get usable SDR files, and can replace the files of the project with those, make proxies & etc.

 

It's a hassle, it might work ... so Pr2021 would really be my best suggestion at this time.

 

Now, I'd be happy to test a clip of it that media, if you could link me to a dropbox type service.

 

And they do have apparently a couple color management fixes (of the several ones needed!) in the public beta, so you might try installing the public beta and checking that. You can work "shipping" 2022 projects in the public beta, and go back to working them with the shipping version easily.

 

I typically have the public beta, shipping, and as many previous versions of Pr installed as were available when the computer was made. This rig has back through the 2019 versions, I've an older one that goes back to 2015. Even ... SpeedGrade, sigh ...

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Legend
March 9, 2022

A significant disadvantage of previous versions is that we do not get the features that are now available in the current version. Agree. It is not an option to go below the current one.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
March 9, 2022

There are some changes in the captions/subtitles that would be a pain to lose by going back for many pros. Past that, not so much that I can think of to go back one version.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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March 9, 2022
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