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jamesc14844427
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September 6, 2018
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Crashing is just a part of life now

  • September 6, 2018
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I'm at a loss of what to do.

Premiere just crashes and crashes and crashes.


After Effects is a little better.

Media Encoder is pretty terrible.

Im working on large (30 min) and small scale projects (2 min or smaller).

The problems occur in various forms. It could be when importing clips, it could be when moving or cutting a clip on the T/L, it could be while exporting. It could be a heavy lag when trying to watch a T/L.

My specs are as follows:

Windows 10

Nvidia Quadro M4000

64GB RAM

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6900K CPU @ 3.20GHz, 3201 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)

Samsung SSD 950 PRO 512GB

Working off a Synology NAS DS2415+ (100TB - 50/50 RAID)

I dont want work arounds, they dont fix the problem, they just divert around it (given the name). It shouldn't be this difficult.

I've uninstalled, and reinstalled, both adobe and windows. Im the administrator on the PC, windows defender has exclusions with Premiere and Media Encoder.

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Correct answer Kevin J. Monahan Jr.

JamesC,

Do you have any suggestions for hardware that may increase the connection and speed between the NAS and the PC so as to limit this possible bottle neck?

My suggestion is to work with a video VAR in setting up your network for working with Premiere Pro. Setting up several Premiere Pro nodes in a shared environment is not a casual task. Premiere Pro has special configuration needs to function properly in any networked environment.

For example, the media cache should live locally not on the server. That is but one of many items necessary for Premiere Pro to function properly. Do you have access to such a specialist or have the budget to hire such a company/engineer/specialist?

If you have no other options other than this standard NAS setup, you can try various tuning setups to make sure your system will function.

Here is some additional info that may be helpful:

Networks and removable media with Digital Video

If you were to start over, the proper technology to use for a shared video editing environment is a dedicated SAN connected via fiber channel. A system like this is much more robust and set up to function with the proper speed, redundancy, and stability. Other networked environments are subject to unexpected behavior.

That said, there are some true believers out there. With the proper hot rodding, a NAS can work out for you with the proper pipes, black boxes, and settings. Check out this article: 45 Drives: How to Tune a NAS for Direct-from-Server Editing of 5K Video

Please come back with any questions or observations.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Community Expert
September 7, 2018

If you are on the latest PP update, it might be related to your CPU not

being perfectly compatible as it is not Generation 7 or above

But as Kevin advised, NAS is problematic ...

Dunno if Kevin-Monahan​ would advise this for shared and team projects ?:

https://www.studionetworksolutions.com/evo/

Haven't tested it, but at a TV I work for we were in contact with them and they provided

a live demonstration on EVO Prodigy and ShareBrowser

jamesc14844427
Participating Frequently
September 7, 2018

Thanks Meg.

Good point! haha

I'll give it a go and get back to you both.

Cheers

Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
Legend
September 6, 2018

JamesC,

Sorry, but this is not normal. My only observation is that using a NAS can often be problematic.

Use only high speed internal drives and take the NAS out of the chain.

What happens then?

Thanks,

Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
jamesc14844427
Participating Frequently
September 7, 2018

Unfortunately its not much of an option.

As having access to all footage and projects is integral to all the production team in this small business. Copying too and from the server after each project is complete just wouldn't be feasible as I'm consistently going between multiple throughout each week/day.

I appreciate this may be an issue though.

Do you have any suggestions for hardware that may increase the connection and speed between the NAS and the PC so as to limit this possible bottle neck?

Thanks

Inspiring
September 7, 2018

I believe the suggestion to remove the NAS and test Premiere stability was a troubleshooting suggestion.

If you remove the NAS and get good preformance from Premiere, it will guide you to focusing on the NAS and its network.

If you remove the NAS and still have problems with stability of Premiere, it will indicate there is something else going on here.

MtD