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December 11, 2022
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"Go to next/previous marker" feature not working with clip markers in the timeline

  • December 11, 2022
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After Premiere's most recent update to Version 23.1.0 (Build 86), I noticed the "Go to next/previous marker" feature was no longer working properly in the timeline. The feature works when there are only timeline markers, but the moment I introduce one or more clips into the timeline with markers--or add markers to a clip within the timeline--the feature breaks, and how it breaks depends on a number of factors...

 

For instance:

If I have an empty timeline and add markers, the "go to next/previous marker" feature will jump between the markers just fine. And if I add a clip with no markers to the timeline, the feature continues working. But if I add a marker to the clip itself (or add a clip to the timeline that already has a marker in it between the clip's in/out points), the "go to marker" shortcuts break, and the playhead will jump between the first marker and an unmarked specific frame (in one test, the frame it returned to each time was 00:00:01:19, while on another timeline, the time was 00:00:09:13).

This is, however, only if the clip is not at the starting frame of the timeline. If I move the clip to where its in point is the first frame of the timeline, the "go to marker" shortcuts begin working fine again, jumping between both clip and timeline markers. I can also add additional markers to that clip and all is well. But if I then copy the clip with the marker to another spot on the timeline--either touching the first clip or not--the feature breaks again: the playhead jumps to the marker in the first clip (at the start of the timeline) then ceases to move anymore.

If I click to a random point later in the timeline, the shortcuts will function properly between any timeline markers that don't have clips with markers between them, but the moment I try to go to a clip marker--or a timeline marker beyond a clip with a marker in it--the fuction breaks and the playhead gets stuck at that random frame it keeps returning to. (Upon further testing, it seems the frame it chooses happens to be a frame I at one point had a clip with a marker, and it returns there even after I've moved the clip away.)

 

The problem is clearly the markers within the clips, because the shortcuts work when the only markers are timeline markers. But when clips with markers are introduced to the timeline--whether it has timeline markers or not--it breaks. That said, the shortcuts work fine in the Source Monitor when a clip with markers is opened there.

 

Given I work almost exclusively with clip markers rather than timeline markers, this is a bit of a problem for me...

I'm working on a 2019 iMac with macOS Monterey (v12.5), if that's helpful to know.

    Correct answer helpful_scientist5EB7

    I'm on a Mac M1 Max, running Premiere 23.2.0 (Build 69) and the marker function seems to be working as expected now. Thank you!

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    Luiz1980
    Luiz1980
    Participant
    January 31, 2023

    Same problem here. It's impossible work with markers now. 

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      brian15A8
      Participant
      January 24, 2023

      same issue here!!

        Stan Jones
        Community Expert
        Stan JonesCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        January 23, 2023

        seth and others,

         

        I was able to reproduce this bug a while back, but I don't think I posted here. Seth, you did a great job on the initial description. I was just posting in response to a user who was reporting what I think is this same problem, and decided to post my latest finding here, since I'm pointing I'm to this bug report to upvote.

         

        The bug has some odd characteristics and can be confusing to test. I'm on Win10 using PR 23.1 and PR Beta 23.2 Build 2. The problem occurs for me in 23.1, and appears fixed in the Beta version I'm using. I don't know when it was fixed there.

         

        My description is that the problem occurs in a sequence where one or more clips with clip markers start at a time other than zero. So one clip with clip markers is okay (and sequence markers too) as long as the clip starts at zero. If you move that clip so it doesn't start at zero, add a clip with markers later on the timeline, or add clip markers to a clip later in the timeline, the goto commands eventually try to go to the clip marker in the later clip, but instead go to a time location as if that clip started at zero. A nested sequence with sequence markers comes into the new sequence with "clip" markers. So describing the many odd results becomes confusing.

         

        In any event, my simplified test creates a new sequence from a clip. If that clip already has clip markers, that's good. If not, add at least one clip marker after it is in the sequence. If you test now, you will see that Shft+M and Ctrl+Shft+M commands work fine. Now drag the clip a few seconds to the right so it no longer starts at zero.

         

        Shft+M and Ctrl+Shft+M commands may work once or twice, but the positions they move to are where the Markers were BEFORE the clip was moved. If you add a second clip instead of moving the original one, it still works if the second clip has no markers. If it has markers or you add them, it also breaks the goto commands.

         

        Stan

         

          ZoeMountain
          ZoeMountain
          Participant
          January 23, 2023

          Version 23.1.0

          Mac OS 12.0.1

           

          I just updated to Premiere 2023. I use markers to mark selects in my timeline. When I use the "Go to next/previous marker" command to jump from marker to marker, I'm sent to a random point at the beginning of my timeline where there is no marker, and then I am stuck there and this command has no affect. This happens when I use my keyboard shortcuts, or select this command directly from the Marker menu. I spoke with another editor who is having the exact same issue since updating to Adobe 2023. Haven't been able to find any work around, we'd love to see a fix for this bug ASAP!

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            Alain D.
            Known Participant
            January 24, 2023

            Hi ZoeMountain,

             

            Yes, that's definitely a new bug introduced in v23.1.0. It gets triggered when you have your clip markers enabled in the sequence. 2 "work arounds" for now:

            1) Downgrade Premiere to get the full functionality for both clip & sequence markers

            2) If all you need is go to next/previous sequence markers, then simply disable the clip markers in your given sequence and your hotkeys should work fine.

            3) Of course, a 3rd option complementing 2) above would be to match your source and view the clip marker from the Source Viewer Panel. Your hotkeys would be functionnal on the source there. But definitely not as productive as having it all within sequence.

             

            HTH,

             

            Alain

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              Christopher235080132dk6
              Participant
              January 16, 2023

              GO To Next Marker only appears to be working on the first 2 markers, maybe if there is more than one layer. Any Further Markers it doesn't recognize. I notice the Previous Marker works, sometimes. but it is a hit-and-miss. And when there are multiple layers with markers in the timeline or on the clips It doesn't seem to acknowledge them at all.

               

               

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                obiwattkenobi
                Participant
                January 16, 2023

                I'm having the same problem, ADOBE, please fix this!

                  The Other Andrew
                  The Other Andrew
                  Inspiring
                  January 13, 2023

                  I figured out why "Go to Previous Marker" (Ctrl+Shift+M) was not working for me: that keyboard shortcut was already bound in AMD Adreneline Edition software (as "toggle microphone", not something I need).  Once I unbound it there, I guess that keyboard combination was freed up to work again in Premiere.

                   

                  Something to check into if you have this AMD software running.

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                  t277139954vwl
                  Participant
                  January 12, 2023

                  Having the same issues in 23.1(x86).

                    The Other Andrew
                    The Other Andrew
                    Inspiring
                    January 11, 2023

                    The keyboard shortcut for Go to Previous Marker (Ctrl+Shift+M) is no longer working for me.  It does indeed appear to be assigned correctly in keyboard shortcuts.  I reset my preferences but it didn't make a difference.

                     

                    I see that this same question was posted in this forum about 18 months ago, but was not resolved.

                     

                    I am using Premiere version 15.4.5 on a Windows machine.

                     

                    Any ideas?

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                    pianoandante
                    Participant
                    January 9, 2023

                    Same problem, Shift+M not working

                      helpful_scientist5EB7
                      helpful_scientist5EB7
                      Participating Frequently
                      January 9, 2023

                      I am having the same/similar problem. Pressing Shift+M or using the Menu -> Go to next marker works if the markers are on the current timeline in the top area, but markers from a nested sequence do not work. Apple M1 Max, Premiere Pro 23.1.0

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