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September 10, 2010
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Premiere CS5 crash in new Mac Pro 2010

  • September 10, 2010
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I have two problems:

1. Sometimes when I make double cick in premiere icon, the program don't start. I see the previous premiere window with the 4 last projects, but I can not select anything, because the pointer mouse become a beach ball. I have to turn off the program with Alt+Cmd+esc.

2. The big problem. Premiere CS5 5.0.0 crash editing while I'm making marks In and Out in Source window or playing the timeline. The 3 monitors became black or freeze, mouse disapears, sounds freeze and I have to restart with power button.

I have last Mac Pro 2010, 2,8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, Mac OS X 10.6.4, 8GB RAM, ATi Radeon 5870, 3 x Hard disk 2 TB, 3 monitors connected trought DVI double chanel, and two minidisplayport-DVI double chanel.

Sorry for my english.

Any help or doubt about my explanation?

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    Participant
    September 12, 2011

    I've had Premiere Pro CS5 5.0.2 installed since maybe July 2010 on this macbook pro 10.6.4   i7 w/8 Gigs of ram.

    My problem just started last week.

    I'm playing P2 Footage (but it does it with all kinds of footage) and lets say I drop about 15 minutes of clips on the timeline.

    Then I start playback, and about 4 minutes into the video, the video and the Current Time Indicator freeze and the audio keeps playing.

    When I hit stop or do anything, the beachball spins. I have to forcequit Premiere and the same thing keeps happening after I reboot and reopen Premiere.

    So pretty much I'm stuck like chuck and not able to edit anything :-(

    Please help,

    ~Lou~

    Todd_Kopriva
    Inspiring
    September 12, 2011

    > I've had Premiere Pro CS5 5.0.2 installed since maybe July 2010 on this macbook pro 10.6.4   i7 w/8 Gigs of ram.

    Install the Premiere Pro CS5 (5.0.4) update.

    Participant
    September 13, 2011

    Todd,

    update complete to 5.0.4

    when it gets to almost the 5 minute mark it still crashes.....

    ~Lou~

    June 28, 2011

    Was the 5.0.4 update supposed to fix this problem? Because I am STILL getting it on my 2010 Mac Pro and 5.0.4 whenever I zoom into the timeline. Clicking Continue crashes Premiere.

    In fact, I remember getting this error in 5.5 as well before I rolled back to cs5, except clicking continue did not crash the program.

    Todd_Kopriva
    Inspiring
    June 28, 2011

    funkbomb,

    That is a different problem.

    June 28, 2011

    Thank you for the response. Any chance it will be fixed? Is anyone working on it?

    Participating Frequently
    April 1, 2011

    I would also like to point out that with OSX 10.6.7 iMac 27" i7 with the ATI Radeon HD 5750 1G graphics, going back to Premiere Pro 5.0.0, like Adobe suggests, I now had a 100% reproducible bug of when I make in/out points on files in source player, then tried to drag to timeline, Premiere crashes. This makes working with Premiere impossible for me.

    So now here are my choices:

    1. work in 5.0.0 without being able to drag source clips that I mark in/out points on.

    2. work in 5.0.3 with:

        a. not being able to have windows resizing while playing a clips without critically FREEZING my entire system (gray screen) - !00% all the time

        b. not being able to click on or drag a file that is in my project window to open in source player without crashing Premiere (doesn't freeze system) - 100%

              i. Workaround to this bug is to first play a clip in that tiny preview window (don't know what it's called) in the project window, then I can get any clip to    not crash the source player

    3. Work in Final Cut pro. No crashes.

    Please don't tell me my only solution to get Premiere Pro working is to wipe my system and then reload 5.0.0 because I won't do that when I also have Final Cut Pro on my system with no issues. I prefer Premiere and was telling people this was a game changer especially in the emerging indie DSLR film industry (where many many people are moving to iMacs 27" i7 form older Mac Pros because of how great and inexpensive these systems are to new emerging production studios, this is going to be a HUGE market for you Adobe because the already established production studios are still suck on FCP).

    Yes I get it, the Mac Pro's with NVIDIA chips are your primary focus, but this doesn't mean you can just ignore a critical bug like this with ATI chips and with people who don't have the choice to get an NVIDIA card to fix this issue. It just proves the point to all those hardcore FCP people out there that Premiere is unreliable and I hate that because Premiere right now, I feel, is the best editor out there for DSLR editing and I can't use it without remember certain CAN'S AND CAN NOT'S while working with the software.

    JaysonM-Y
    Participating Frequently
    March 22, 2011

    Apple, Adobe, ATI problem... lolz Tripple A.

    Seriously tho, It seems a tripple problem requiring 3 parties to solve. So far this thread turns out to be a venting list rather than helpful user feedback.

    In a sense we should be glad Adobe doesn't mind us crying on their(and seemingly theirs alone) shoulders.

    Adobe Employee
    March 31, 2011

    Hi All

    I'm Al, one of the Product Managers on Premiere Pro. I'm sorry for the time

    taken for us to formally respond to these threads but we wanted to make sure we

    understood the situation as well as we could first.

    Essentially, it appears that a small change made to the code in Premiere Pro

    5.0.2 may cause the application to be unstable on Macs running with AMD/ATI

    GPUs. The unpredictability of the issue makes it challenging to get to the

    bottom of, but I wanted to let you all know that we are absolutely aware of

    it, appreciate that it's frustrating, and that we are currently

    investigating it in more depth.

    Right now I'm not in a position to say if and when a fix will be made

    available, but rest assured that we are investigating, and we'll keep you

    posted as to any developments.

    Sorry for the difficulties you're having - we're doing what we can.

    thanks

    al.

    April 1, 2011

    Right now I'm not in a position to say if and when a fix will be made

    available, but rest assured that we are investigating, and we'll keep you

    posted as to any developments.

    Who are you anyway?

    Represent yourself!

    Participating Frequently
    January 6, 2011

    Thanks for your feedback, I tried your idea and it didn't seem to make much difference so you are probably right. My error is the same as the original post  by pericu_parrac in September. My system is the fastest and most efficient recommended by Adobe for Mac with the Matrox recommendation. Every configuration can present a problem and when three manufacturers product are being used together each one blames the other if there's an issue, mainly because they do not fully cooperate with one another, and systems are tending to be fragmented. i have used both Apple and PC edit systems since the mid 90's and there are still not 100% stable. What I object to is that customers are being used more and more to test products before they are ready to be released, thanks to forums, companies can correct errors through the forum feedback - this is cart before horse. There is nothing more frustrating than spending 000's of dollars/pounds and ending up with something you constantly have to repair yourself through patch downloads etc

    Sorry if I've ranted on a bit

    Participating Frequently
    January 6, 2011

    The error message I have is exactly the same as the one here already posted except that mine reads [/Skinner64 instead of [/Scully64 as seen below...

    thanks for any advice...but please let's not get into a PC versus Mac discussion!!

    jefbak
    Known Participant
    January 6, 2011

    James, your error may be different than what is being discussed here. My system simply freezes (not just premiere) without any premiere or apple error message and the crash reporter is not engaged. The mac has to be rebooted to recover.

    On the idea of using the percentage method instead of fit to screen. It will not work when you are asking premiere to use the second monitor for external device playback since it will playback at whatever screen resolution is set for the second monitor.

    And since we use Macs here at the college, the PC option is not an option. Final Cut Pro is, but I learned editing on Premiere (on a PC) in 1998 and it is just so hard to switch.

    Participating Frequently
    January 6, 2011

    i am using a second monitor

    seems a little more stable at the mo - but does crash from time to time (either as mac black panic kernel or simply freezes and requires re-start) - seems to be when i adjust the interface whilst playing?? perhaps?

    come on adobe - power up your mac and get this sorted please

    paul

    Participating Frequently
    January 6, 2011

    I too have experienced exactly the same issue with my new MacPro with the following set up:

    Here are my specs:


    a) MacPro 6-core Intel Xeon running OSX Snow Leopard 10.6.4
    b) MX02 Max (& accelerator) with latest drivers 2.1,
    c) Graphics card: Invidia Quadra 4800,
    d) Premiere CS5.02.
    e) Capture drive is G-TECH (GTECH-GR4-4000-EMEA) with ESata.

    Capture preset: Matrox MX02 - Pal YUV 8bit
    Capture Format: Matrox MPEG I-Frame limiting data to 5000KBytes/sec

    The crash happens with no warning or apparent specific operation. The last time it happened for instance I was scrolling through Audio, but before that it happened for another reason. It is absolutely imperative that Apple and Adobe sort this out - as you can see from the spec it is nothing to do with the Apple ADI-Radeon card, and the Invidia one is a CUDA based one recommended by Aobe and Apple specifically for use with the Matrox MX02 set up. I don't know how to cure this issue so please Apple & Adobe help us by providing a patch

    Thank you

    Harm_Millaard
    Inspiring
    January 6, 2011

    Start with Matrox,they have a fabulous reputation for messing things up. Also update to 5.03.

    If that does not solve it, consider a PC. Far less costly, much faster and more and better choices for expansion.

    dradeke
    Participating Frequently
    January 6, 2011

    Harm Millaard wrote:

    If that does not solve it, consider a PC. Far less costly, much faster and more and better choices for expansion.

    Don't mind Harm - he's as passionate about PCs as many Mac zealots are about their computers.  As an Adobe guy who uses both, I say use whatever your comfortable with.

    As to his other statement - I agree - pull the Matrox completely out of the system and see how it starts to perform.

    Dennis

    jefbak
    Known Participant
    December 10, 2010

    Also seeing intermittment system freezes in PPro CS5 on my Mac Pro and I have updated to 5.0.3 (lates OS X as well 10.6.5). I  think have narrowed it down to only happening when using a second monitor for External device playback (playback options menu). Sometime the video will just freeze and the audio will continue but the mouse and keyboard have frozen and only a hard reboot will do. Unfortuantely this kind of crash does not engage the crash reporter for Apple or Adobe. ATI 5870 card in use as well. It may just be a conincidence but sticking to one monitor has not produced a crash yet (I would prefer to use that second monitor however).

    Todd_Kopriva
    Inspiring
    December 10, 2010

    jefbak, thanks for that additional information. We're investigating this issue now, so every bit of information helps.

    Participating Frequently
    November 30, 2010

    I've had the same problem.  I even had my Mac Pro replaced since there was no real clear cause to the issue other than a Kernal Panic tied to the graphics card.  I did however find a a posting claiming that using the "FIT" setting for the clips viewers caused this issue.  I changed both of my viewers to specific percentages and CS5 PP has been stable.  Every now and then the graphics card will become glitchy causing me to restart PP.  Give it a try and see if it helps.

    Sean

    Participating Frequently
    November 30, 2010

    Sean, after replace MAC PRO, did the problem continue, or with the new machine you finally fix the problem?

    Thanks

    Participating Frequently
    November 15, 2010

    Ok this is going to sound crazy. I've recently had the same problem. I'm using the new iMac 27" with the ATI Radeon HD 5750, one month old. I would 100% crash hard lock up or even computer instantly shutting off the moment I tried to resize my sequence preview window while I was playing the timeline. I trashed my prefs, uninstalled PP CS5, nothing fixed it. This was happening with OSX 10.6.4, updated to 10.6.5, didn't fix it. Then I changed my preview from "fit" (which is what I always have it set to) to 20%. For some odd reason, now it's totally fine when runing the timeline and resizing. Changed it to other percentage options, no problem. Went back to "fit" and no issues now. STRANGE. But there is something definately funky going on with this ATI card because when I do have the window set to "fit" even if I have no clips in the timeline, when I go to resize the preview window I get white blocks of corruption in the black movie window on the borders. I'm not a programmer but I believe this is a redraw issue? Maybe that's a problem causing the crash because the one time I was able to get an Apple report dump there was a kore panic