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After updating to 25.0 I can't find the reference monitor anymore. Where did it go?

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PaulMurphyCorrect answer

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The reference monitor has been phased out. You can read more about it here: Deprecation of the In-App Reference Monitor.

Elwoodjblues1

Inspiring

The concept of the reference monitor made sense, but unfortunately it never worked the way I wanted it to in practice. It hardly ever stayed with the frame that I wanted to see as a reference, but instead synchronised itself with the programme monitor without being asked. (Even with ‘Gang with Programme Monitor’ switched off). But I find the workaround given by Adobe strange. Here they write: ‘For precise frame-by-frame referencing, consider using the Source Monitor and Match Frame combination (shortcut key F), or revert to an earlier version of Premiere Pro if you need the Reference Monitor’ But Match Frame shows me the clip without effects that I have on the clip in the timeline. How is that supposed to help me compare? Of course, the ‘Comparison View’ would make more sense as a suggestion, but unfortunately the navigation is too imprecise for me. But I find the fact that this suggestion doesn't come directly from Adobe a bit lame.

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R Neil Haugen

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I've never had troubles with frame navigation/selection in the Comparison view, so that's an interesting comment.

What would make that easier or more accurate for your use?

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Elwoodjblues1

Inspiring

If you only want to jump from clip to clip, the previous navigation is sufficient. It's only when I want to navigate to a specific frame to use it as a reference that it becomes cumbersome. Especially with longer clips (more than 5 minutes) the scrollbar is too imprecise. Especially because you have to operate it with the mouse. My workaround is that I first select the frame I want to use as a reference and then copy the timecode into the reference window. Alternatively, it would be cool if there was a separate playhead in the timeline with which you can change which one you want to operate at the touch of a button. While we're at it. In the Comparsen View I can directly compare Lumetri Scope and Waveform but not the Vectorscope. Have I overlooked a setting that makes this possible?

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Levente27428312bli7

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Now that it has been updated to this beta version, I can see that the reference monitor has disappeared. This really bugs me now, because it was really a very good tool for color grading. I could constantly check while coloring whether my current lighting matches any other frames in the timeline. Perhaps the developers are also aware that most people already do the color grading with other software after editing....

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PaulMurphy

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I recommend using Comparison View instead. It offers a similar functionality for comparing frames.

Here’s a guide on how to use it: Comparison View in Premiere Pro.

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