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Bill12
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January 26, 2009
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Back Button Operation

  • January 26, 2009
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Since the login changes have started, the operation of the back button has changed for some reason. IE seems to go back to the same place, but SeaMonkey fails to do that. I have tried different browsers and web sites. IE does return to the same place, but both SeaMonkey and FireFox go back to the top of the page. This does not happen on other sites, only the forum, leading to the conclusion that there is a change in the forum software (though I can not find anything in the source listings).

In a related manner, a refresh also moves back to the top of the page. This is not typical in browsers and has apparently been added to the forums. Please leave out these moves to the top of the page and leave the page where it was. Let the browser work normally. When one returns to the top of the page with either a back button or a refresh, I then have to just scan down to where I was before again. It gets to be a real pain and I have found it very annoying in the Acrobat for Windows forum.

Since this is a recent occurrence, I assume it is an issue with the changes to the forum structure. It would be nice to have a consistent manner of operating that is consistent with normal use and not something changed by a new forum setup. Designing software oriented only to IE is not acceptable.

I noticed that there are several options now available in the preferences for display, like turning off a lot of the junk. When I go to one of the ColdFusion type links, those preferences are ignored. I still do not understand why there is an instance in a change when the folks that use the Adobe forums are generally happy with them. At least one person indicated that folks on the MM based forums go to a news format because they dislike the MM format. If it is true that many that use the MM format do not like it, then why the change in that direction? If that is not correct, it would be nice to know what is so great about all the wasted space.

I posted here as what appears to be the best place to post about changes to the forums. I am interested to see the reactions from others as they go back to work this week and start seeing the changes, though small at present. So far I have not seen anything that I consider an improvement and the back button issue is annoying to say the least (no, I will not change to IE to avoid it).

Bill
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    Bill12Author
    Inspiring
    January 29, 2009
    I have tried to stay out of this list of posts that I got started. It seems to have gotten out of hand (maybe due to me). However for Ramón that keeps talking about it as a minor issue, I sure hope you do not have the problem. Always going to the top of the previous page is a real pain. I was just trying to indicate a potential problem or find a solution. I was also fueled with the thought (and past memory) of the changes I expect are coming and will likely not be welcome by many.

    Since no one had an answer that helped, I am pursuing the topic separately. Thanks for the suggestions that came along.
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    Neil_Keller
    Known Participant
    January 29, 2009
    pj,
    >The purpose of most of the forums are to ask and answer questions, usually with pertinent information. but also an opinions of what they see as deficiencies in the Product.

    And thus my point: it's why you will see far more problems or complaints than compliments, and why seeing several similar posts shouldn't automatically be perceived as a general fault with the application. Or with the computer or operating system, for that matter.

    Neil
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    January 29, 2009
    Kath,
    >Ramón, would you hold your tongue over something you wanted to say, just because no-one else had expressed that view? Didn't think so

    That is precisely my point. If more folks saw this as a significant issue, they would have spoken up. They haven't.

    I'm not criticizing the OP for voicing his concern, just for being so darned long-winded over such a minor issue.

    In other words, pick your battles.
    PJonesCET
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    January 29, 2009
    The purpose of most of the forums are to ask and answer questions, usually with pertinent information. but also an opinions of what they see as deficiencies in the Product. There may or may not be an answer to the problem or opinion. But. If I could afford Photoshop and it served it purpose well I'd brag.

    I have a problem of in Acrobat 9 that Page setup won't allow you to set a Printer. I've asked the question twice. received replies one being they have seen the problem but had no help to cure, The other time a couple of follow ups were but the question died. So I figure there is no answer. someone at least made an effort.

    But I have seen an occasional half way snide comment either directed to the op or someone offering a reply.

    I must say th e Mac, Acrobat group and other groups are reasonably well behaved.
    Claudio González
    Claudio González
    Legend
    January 28, 2009
    >How many folks register and log in just to say, "I enjoy using Photoshop."?

    I would say that about one in a million.
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    Neil_Keller
    Known Participant
    January 28, 2009
    pj,
    >He might be the only one brave enough to.

    There is no "bravery" required to express a valid viewpoint, and not just adrenaline-driven nonsense or unsubstantiated "fact" in these forums. Just be able to back up your position, keep your cool, and you should be fine.
    >Forums and boards and forums have gone in cycles.

    Case in point: Can you substantiate this? Some of the forums here (and elsewhere) are far more vocal or opinionated than others. Some have less social participants. Others are the model of propriety. But, at least for the Adobe Forums I'm familiar with, I haven't noticed a strong general shift towards one direction or another.

    To touch on another point brought up, those who have an issue or problem are far more vocal than those who are happy with the status quo. How many folks register and log in just to say, "I enjoy using Photoshop."?

    Neil
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    Neil_Keller
    Known Participant
    January 28, 2009
    pj,
    >He might be the only one brave enough to.

    There is no "bravery" required to express a valid viewpoint, and not just adrenaline-driven nonsense or unsubstantiated "fact" in these forums. Just be able to back up your position, keep your cool, and you should be fine.
    >Forums and boards and forums have gone in cycles.

    Case in point: Can you substantiate this? Some of the forums here (and elsewhere) are far more vocal or opinionated than others. Some have less social participants. Others are the model of propriety. But, at least for the Adobe Forums, I haven't noticed a strong general shift towards one direction or another.

    To touch on another point brought up, those who have an issue or problem are far more vocal than those who are happy with the status quo. How many folks register and log in just to say, "I enjoy using Photoshop."?

    Neil
    Kath-H
    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    January 28, 2009
    Ramón, would you hold your tongue over something you wanted to say, just because no-one else had expressed that view? Didn't think so ;)
    PJonesCET
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    January 28, 2009
    He might be the only one brave enough to. Remember Forums from everyone of late have become very nasty and intimidating to new years, and there are lots of folks that don't post for being made to look dumb and stupid. Unlike years ago the visitors felt like they were joining a community.
    Forums and boards and forums have gone in cycles. First the board forum operators thought they better than others simply because they operated the Boards Forums. Now there was a sea Change where such were operated by people that thought of the people coming in as simply needing help and decent treatment. Now the Pendulum is swing back the other way. So many people are intimidated from asking questions.

    I've been around so long That I've developed a thick hide. I express my opinions, which are just that.
    Kath-H
    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    January 28, 2009
    Well, if everyone waited to speak until they were sure that lots of people felt the same - no-one would ever speak up, would they?
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