Go to Jive's own forum. What do you like and dislike?

What's worrying me is having a poke around over there (Jive) - they seem to be still working out a massive number of bugs.

Kath...

Ever been to forums that make quoting messages push-button easy, and put each one inside of ever-shrinking boxes? I see mindless users doing that without editing all the old, irrelevant content, and it gets very ugly, very quickly.

(Umm, yeah...didn't we push that "feature" to its absurd limits over on TD_O's forum?)

THAT'S something I'm biting my nails about.

Part of the point of those standards is that any site should 'degrade gracefully' so it's still usable in older browsers.

Along with the massive wasted space to the left and right, that could get very very silly very very quickly.

> " Whatever the final design it must be browser-agnostic. Otherwise, it's a lousy design."

That goes without saying, Bob.

But I think is is a Very Bad Idea® to tweak any web property from here on out in any way that compromises w3c standards, or which caters to those folks who are using what are essentially radically outdated browsers.

Doesn't work in I.E 6 or older?

Offer a polite "tough cookies" to those users and expalin to them that they need to quit living in the coal-fired, insecure past.

:)

http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/thread/38414?tstart=0 is a good example of the indenting that seems to happen - but it's indented on the left only, so that posts get narrower and narrower until a certain point where the width gets fixed with lots of whitespace to the left.

Hopefully that can be turned off so that all posts are below each other with the same width as the first post.

Ann Shelbourne:

So, what you are saying is that, on the whole, you 'sorta, well, maybe would prefer, if nobody objects, to see something just a little, shall we say different from what has been shown so far. Me too :)

Indeed, Bob, I fully agree.

The popup thing that Phos mentions might, perhaps, have a customisable time setting. As it is on the forum he's linked to, personally I doubt whether I'd be troubled by it as the time setting does mean you have to hover pretty deliberately. But if making that happen slows down the page load in the first place, that's a different problem.

Ozpeter and Phos±four dots:

Please do NOT lose sight of the fact that many users don't use FireFox. Whatever the final design it must be browser-agnostic. Otherwise, it's a lousy design.

I'd surely like to be invited to the test forum when it goes online here.

John C...you have me in your address book! Give me a little ring-a-ding-ding!

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