Go to Jive's own forum. What do you like and dislike?

>My problem remains chiefly with what seems to be poor support for identifying and going directly to unread content.

Yep. My number one requirement.

(And I think it will derail yours).

I don't have a big in-principle problem with the look of Clearspace, so long as any obvious wasted-space issues are minimised. It seems kind of big and bold which frankly suits my eyesight.

My problem remains chiefly with what seems to be poor support for identifying and going directly to unread content. A bit like having a beautiful looking car with great performance but no steering wheel. Maybe I'm wrong - I await our own testbed.

::Phos.... is spending the afternoon popping in and out of his pixel dungeon, busying himself with creating static mock-ups of Clearspace pages, the layout of which will probably prove impossible to pull off in the actual app::

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what ann said. all good ideas.

I have the NoScript add-on, Peter, and it was enabled for my first speed test on the page load. That doesn't mean I have my NoScript add-on configured the same way you do, though. It has a broad function set. But in the configuration I usually use, the onMouseover image for user profiles popped up.

However, I disabled both NoScript and and AdBlock Plus, thinking maybe that might be the cause of the slow page loads. I even enabled 500MB of Firefox browser caching, which I normally have switched off, as it doesn't seem to make a difference to me on most sites. It didn't help, either.

I just tested my performance at http://www.speedtest.net and I'm getting about 5.96.3 Mbps D/L speeds from several test servers within 200 miles.

So, I have no idea why you guys are getting fast loads and I'm not.

No performance issues here at a quick test. Popup profiles do not happen in Firefox if using "NoScript" (tee hee!).

>Now I pose the question to everyone: Does this strike you as efficient use of screen area?

It does NOT!

I do not want to see screen-wasting avatars or personal notes of ANY kind (except for identification of Adobe personnel and Hosts) unless I choose to click on their names _ definitely NO pop-ups.

The whole right-hand column on the Jive site is a dreadful idea: who gives a damn about who the major participants are or how often they have posted?

Using a background image is a monumentally bad idea and just slows page-loading pointlessly especially the grayscale rendering of the ghastly Adobe swirl which was designed for the packaging of CS3 and has mercifully been dropped from CS4.

Text needs to be BLACK on white: pale blue and gray text are tiresome (in every sense of the word!) and I also find the use of pale blue in page design to be "cold" and unwelcoming.

But what I really detest is the attempt to make a serious and factual source of information (as the Adobe Forums have been since their inception) into a set of "oh-so-cosy" Chat Rooms for a Third Grade mindset and that is exactly what the introduction of avatars and personal mini-blogs does.

Put that sort of nonsense in Photoshop Elements if you must but please keep the Forums for the professional applications free from this extraneous junk.

Hmm...could be network congestion. I noticed some slowness in other travels today, too.

took about 3 seconds here phos. and about 2 to go into a topic.