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Claudio González
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August 6, 2005
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Still no supervision in the French and Spanish forums?

  • August 6, 2005
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I forgot that threads are extremely short lived in this forum, and the discussion that really began within an unrelated thread, here

Pierre Courtejoie, "Shouldn't these links be removed as soon as possible?" #8, 27 Feb 2005 1:21 pm

has already gone to the Archives, where it is in danger of going to the limbus in the near future.

I still think that this is an important issue, and still wait to see any improvement in those forums showing that the messages by Pierre and myself on the subject have not fallen in a void. Although we both value and thank Neil Keller for his attempts to get some reaction in higher quarters, his attempts have unfortunately been a failure.

It is pathetic to see pages in the forums in Spanish with templates that are written in a mixture of English and a very bad Spanish. It is even more pathetic that JC stopped more than a year ago feeling authorized to introduce any non trivial change to improve this situation. The worst part is however to feel that there is no one listening, or at least willing to admit that there might be problems in those forums.

I feel very disappointed.
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    Jacob Bugge
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 18, 2006
    Well, Claudio, I did read the earlier posts about Ruritania and Fenwick, so the googling was just a side effect with a surprising result.

    The article I linked to made me think whether the sorting consisted in the Adobe takeover of Macromedia. Do you know about that, Kath?

    So maybe the solicitors of former MM actually came from Fenwick, and if they had a hand in the forum changes it would prove the suspicion right.
    Claudio González
    Legend
    April 18, 2006
    Thanks, Kath, I had noticed that the article is five years old, that's why I found it strange that I don't recall having read anything about this matter. But then, my memory is not what it used to be ... and I am not reading as much as I did.
    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    April 18, 2006
    The article is from 2001. All sorted.
    Claudio González
    Legend
    April 17, 2006
    Hello Jacob,

    I find it difficult to follow what lawyers write in my own language, so I didn't attempt to read in detail the document in the link you gave. I did, however, understand what it all was about. I don't remember having read anything about this legal battle, so I don't know if anything else happened afterwards, or if there was some sort of agreement, or a final veredict. Do you? Anyone?

    As to Adobe Fenwick, it is a private joke in this thread, and I tend to forget that not everyone coming here knows about it. It all really started in the thread from which this one originated, gone to the limbus by now.

    Perhaps you know by now that the French and the Spanish forums were taken over nearly two years ago by a still undisclosed Adobe branch, and that's when our problems started. It was even rumored that it was the Ireland branch (I am not joking). Well, the point is that at one stage, and joking about this secrecy, Ramón suggested that it was the Adobe branch in the Grand Duchy of Fenwick. This is a small ficticious central european country appearing in a most hilarious movie called The Mouse that Roared, featuring Peter Sellers in several roles. From that time onwards, several of us talk about Adobe Fenwick when refering to the undisclosed Adobe branch which in two years has done nothing for the French and Spanish forum except for preventing any improvement.

    Sorry you had to use Google to try to understand what I was talking about.
    Jacob Bugge
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 17, 2006
    Googling Adobe Fenwick, I came across this remarkable web page: http://www.techlawjournal.com/courts2001/macromedia_adobe/20011019com.asp
    Claudio González
    Legend
    April 17, 2006
    No, it's you who is welcome, Jacob. Although the subject of this thread does not affect you, you are willing to at least help in avoiding its going down to the Archives. And the reason for the longer time in my bringing it up again last time is that I am indeed feeling discouraged. I would have expected that after nearly a year of postings, Pierre and I would have been allowed to continue in improving our forums as we were doing before the Adobe Fenwick takeover. Sadly, Adobe Fenwick doesn't even respond to hosts/moderators addressing them directly. Or to JC for that matter. Curious, to say the least.
    Jacob Bugge
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 16, 2006
    You are welcome, Claudio. A month and a half ago I became worried, and I was just about to post when you did.
    Claudio González
    Legend
    April 16, 2006
    Thanks, Jacob. I was going to do it tomorrow.
    Jacob Bugge
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    April 16, 2006
    Back to the top. Hi Claudio, hi Pierre.
    Claudio González
    Legend
    March 17, 2006
    Hello, Pierre, congratulations, I see you haven't lost hope yet. Let's trust your reps are more succesfull than the mods/hosts who have tried to help us here. (I don't feel like looking at the whole thread to check, but I am almost sure that there has been only one. I used the plural just in case ... ).