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Claudio González
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August 6, 2005
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Still no supervision in the French and Spanish forums?

  • August 6, 2005
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I forgot that threads are extremely short lived in this forum, and the discussion that really began within an unrelated thread, here

Pierre Courtejoie, "Shouldn't these links be removed as soon as possible?" #8, 27 Feb 2005 1:21 pm

has already gone to the Archives, where it is in danger of going to the limbus in the near future.

I still think that this is an important issue, and still wait to see any improvement in those forums showing that the messages by Pierre and myself on the subject have not fallen in a void. Although we both value and thank Neil Keller for his attempts to get some reaction in higher quarters, his attempts have unfortunately been a failure.

It is pathetic to see pages in the forums in Spanish with templates that are written in a mixture of English and a very bad Spanish. It is even more pathetic that JC stopped more than a year ago feeling authorized to introduce any non trivial change to improve this situation. The worst part is however to feel that there is no one listening, or at least willing to admit that there might be problems in those forums.

I feel very disappointed.
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    Claudio González
    Legend
    September 17, 2005
    Kath and Nigel,

    You bring a welcome breath of joviality into a deadly serious thread. I appreciate it, because it makes me feel not so low. You remind me that there are in life more important things that a couple of completely unattended forums. Perhaps I should devote more time to those things and not waste any more in something which has looked from the beginning as a lost battle and a lost war. JC was the first one to try, more than a year ago, and he also got and gets "no answer".

    On the other hand, I have my doubts about how valuable your contributions are to our cause. Maybe you are just giving "them" (whomever they are) an excuse to continue evading the issue.
    Participating Frequently
    September 17, 2005
    > Perhaps I should devote more time to those things[.]

    Gee, you think?
    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    September 17, 2005
    I went to a campsite once with people from all over Europe, there were big signs by the pool in several languages - unattended towels will be confiscated.
    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    September 17, 2005
    I'd think they would forego that for some order being restored ;)
    Participating Frequently
    September 17, 2005
    Then none of them would be able to get a lounger by the side of the pool :(
    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    September 17, 2005
    Maybe we need a Spanish- and French-speaking German to sort things out ;)
    Participating Frequently
    September 17, 2005
    >The Germans are organised? Now there's a surprise

    Have you ever tried to get a lounger by the pool after 7am? :D
    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    September 17, 2005
    The Germans are organised? Now there's a surprise ;)
    Claudio González
    Legend
    September 17, 2005
    Pierre, I very much doubt that the two of us can achieve any more than Neil Keller has. He has said more than once that he has contacted and informed people who should take care of these matters, but all he has got is the same than you have: no answer.

    I find peculiar the secrecy sorrounding those in charge of the forums in our two languages. I can think of no rational reason for this secrecy, excepting pehaphs that maybe they most definitely do not want to be identified, or contacted in any way. Let's leave it at the Grand Duchy of Fenwick, as Ramón suggested (and not Ruritania, as I wrongly quoted). Although I tend to see more rationality in the actions of the people of Fenwick that here; at least they did things.

    As to the German forum, I don't know who is in charge, but just a glance at its main page makes it obvious that they are luckier than us.
    PECourtejoie
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 17, 2005
    Claudio, I tried to contact the POC for Adobe France. No answer. The POC for Adobe Belgium is the same.

    If only we knew who is in charge of those forum, the national sites, or UK/Netherlands (would be strange as there is no dutch forum...)

    The german forum seems to have more organization. Don't know if they have hosts/moderators.
    Claudio González
    Legend
    September 17, 2005
    Kath, thanks for your symphaty. My clarification was mere justice. I go to the Lounge every now and then, for cultural rasons, so I know the complains here do not reflect what happens in most of the threads there. As a scientist, I do not like generalizations, precisely because they may be grossly unjust, as in this case.

    I wish that some of the persons who have the power to make things move in these forums would be a tenth as symphatetic as you.