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999graphicmacjd1
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March 20, 2009
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>>>> Thanks Adobe! I LOVE this new forum software!

  • March 20, 2009
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As someone who belongs to many, many forums over the years, I've gone through a lot of forum software changes. Generally, the vocal majority raise heck about it, but eventually things settle down and people go about their regular forum use with little effort.

These new forums are so much "easier on the eyes" than the mind-numbing sea of text we currently have. Some like the new colors, some hate it. Some like avatars & signatures, and some don't. But the reason you come here is for the information, and this new software WILL make it easier to find what you're looking for.

Macworld.com switched to this very same software last year. They had an obscenely large user base, all of which voiced their opinions repeatedly, to the point where many simply stopped visiting until the switchover was complete. In general, those that don't like change tend to voice their opinions the loudest. The vast majority though, tend to keep quiet and roll with changes. Today, Macworld's forums are running just fine, offer a plethora of new features, and are more active than they ever were previously.

I have no heavy interest in what Adobe does with these forums because I rarely visit the current ones - mostly because I find them absolutely unreadable. But I'm also betting I'll be using them a whole lot more once this switchover is complete. In fact, I KNOW I will.

Rather than complaining about change in general, colors, icons, avatars, signatures, bloated code, or whatever silly reason some are coming up with, time would be better spent simply helping to find bugs with what is there. Once the bugs are worked out, Adobe will most likely start looking at "fine-tuning" the look & feel.
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    999graphicmacjd1
    Participant
    April 6, 2009

    I fail to see how "cleaning up the CSS" and "fixing the colors" will bring back any perceived lost functionality. In fact, I see nothing but MORE functionality now.

    March 23, 2009
    Andrew:

    Even if you are able to post images and video directly into the New Forums, you might want to be very wary of doing so!

    Regarding "User's Content" posted on Adobe's forums and other web sites (including both images and video clips as well as code); do be certain to re-read Adobe's TOS; and also these threads:

    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b85a13/
    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b85ebb/
    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b85627/
    Andrew Yoole
    Inspiring
    March 23, 2009
    > What I have noticed is that there is a totally different set of aesthetic values being exhibited here between the Users of the Adobe Professional Graphic Arts applications (Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign) and the people who are almost entirely geared to AV or to web site work and the use of the formerly Macromedia products (such as Dreamweaver).

    Ann, you may be correct. But if functionality is truly the most important feature of Adobe Forums, the WebX format falls dramatically short for my own applications:

    WebX screws any code or script posted, generally making it unusable. For this reason, the Script and Expression areas of the After Effects forum are virtually non-existent. Users go to other places to discuss these features, because it's not practical to do so on the current forums.

    A picture tells a thousand words. When new users come to the WebX forums and want to post a screen grab of their problem project, it's embarrassing to tell them they need to use an external image host to do so.

    Video tells ten thousand words. The ability to easily embed YouTube and other online video content into a post is not just a great convenience, it's a way to teach, inform and demonstrate within the forum, rather than sending users somewhere else mid-discussion.

    I share a number of your criticisms about the Jive Forums, but for me and the community which uses my frequented forums, the Jive system also offers features which are essential for productive use. As I suspect the new system, like the old, will evolve over time, I'm happy to embrace the positives of the change, and hope that any major problems can be resolved in time.
    Inspiring
    March 22, 2009
    The print version is much cleaner in a sense than the screen version. Just try the view in PDF format (when it works!). It is almost tempting to ask if Adobe has its own license to create the PDF (sorry, couldn\'t resist).
    Mark_A__Boyd
    Inspiring
    March 22, 2009
    Ann Shelbourne, ">>>> Thanks Adobe! I LOVE this new forum software!" #9, 21 Mar 2009 9:48 am

    >What I have noticed is that there is a totally different set of aesthetic values being exhibited here between the Users of the Adobe Professional Graphic Arts applications (Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign) and the people who are almost entirely geared to [Professional] AV [applications] or to [Professional] web site work and the use of the formerly Macromedia [Professional] products (such as Dreamweaver[, Director and Fireworks]).

    It seems to me that your observation boils down to the aesthetic values of those who design for print vs those who design for screen. Guess which medium the Web forum uses.

    i (I'm not sure if I used the quote, link, and formatting features correctly.)
    March 22, 2009
    > Man, that tuxedo shot makes you look soooooooo lame

    What about the grinning ram then pray?

    Pot, kettle, etc.
    Cindy-
    Known Participant
    March 22, 2009
    > c'mon. name calling and mocking people?

    Sometimes...it just seems like the right thing to do.
    March 22, 2009
    c'mon. name calling and mocking people? jeez guys.
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    March 22, 2009
    >Ramon does not speak for all regulars.

    That applies a thousand fold to you, Curt boy.

    Man, that tuxedo shot makes you look soooooooo lame :D
    March 22, 2009
    As compared with the base software, what we're seeing in the test forum is considerably pared down in terms of what I suspect you'd describe as 'frivolous bells and whistles'. Nothing has been added by anyone at Adobe.

    While I can see that the form can affect performance, it won't help with functions that are simply not provided by the software. That's my chief area of concern - because I like to read everything, once. Other users don't have that 'mission' here so they won't be so fussed about functions for the heavy users. There's the old saying about who you can please and how often...