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February 28, 2009
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The Big Picture

  • February 28, 2009
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I think what is not being understood by some participants in these discussion is the scale of change which will follow the transition to the new forums.

Have a look at http://www.jivesoftware.com/products/clearspace-community and you'll see that the purpose of the Clearspace Community software goes way beyond the objectives that might be deduced of the current forums and their underlying software.

My personal take on things is that Adobe have decided that the whole style of the user interactions and community here is no longer appropriate to their corporate needs. There was a time when provision of a support forum was not seen as much related to the main thrust of company objectives, but those days have gone. Online communities are now one of the chief means of interaction between a corporation and its customers - and it's a two way channel. Interaction between those customers is also facilitated by within the online community but that's not necessarily deemed to be the key objective.

The forthcoming change represents, sadly, the end of this community and the creation of a new and very different one. The functional elements and the look and feel of their presentation in the Jive software are carefully designed to foster a particular style of interaction between users of Adobe software, and beween the users and the company. The functions and form are designed for an over-riding purpose and to support an overarching communications philosophy, not thrown in upon a whim.

It seems very clear to me that Adobe expects that the new community will have a significantly different flavour to the old, and that they will have anticipated that not all of the present members of this (and the Macromedia) communities will feel at home in the new one. There's no need to warn Adobe that some people will be unhappy enough not to return - they will have accepted that risk at the outset.

While there will be an inevitable loss of expertise, and it will be sad to see the last of some regular participants here, it seems clear to me that Adobe are hoping that the new style of community (moulded by the software they have chosen to create it) will bring in new members who may well have considerable expertise in the products, but who have not felt encouraged to participate in the style of community we have here now. The company will also be hoping that those newly requiring support will find the new site to be more effective and simpler to use than the old, and that the site will enable the company image and the strengths and usage of the product lines to be put across more clearly.

That, as I see it, is the big picture. There's not much point in discussing the points of detail unless in the context of the overall company objectives in making these changes - and if you disagree with the whole underlying premise of the changes, then there's little chance that you'll like much of the detail either.
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    Andrew Yoole
    Inspiring
    March 4, 2009
    How about Adobe Software Specialists? ;)

    Andrew Yoole
    ASS
    Known Participant
    March 3, 2009
    El Presidente, ehhhh?

    Then I wanna be a Corporal Colonel, just like Radar O'Reilly was when he and Hawkeye tired to catch Trapper before he departed and ended up meeting B.J. for the first time.
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    March 3, 2009
    El Cap-i-tan :)

    El Numero Uno :)

    Jack of all Trades, Master of none! :-)
    March 3, 2009
    dave milbut

    -el presidente-

    yea... yeaaaaa...
    Participating Frequently
    March 3, 2009
    Real World Expert? I don't watch MTV.

    dvl

    -Adobe Software Purchaser-
    Participant
    March 3, 2009
    >Real world Dumb ....

    Heh!
    Günter_Schenk
    Inspiring
    March 3, 2009
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    But if you promise to behave REALLY nicely
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    guess you have never witnessed me behaving what I`d consider disgusting -- until now I *have* been nice ;-)

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    I'll see if I have a spare "REAL WORLD EXPERT" Badge left over for you after the others have collected theirs
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    no thanks, my Community Expert badge is still better than that :-) :-)
    March 3, 2009
    >this one is already reserved for us Community Experts

    It isn't! I got to the Copyright Office first!

    But if you promise to behave REALLY nicely I'll see if I have a spare "REAL WORLD EXPERT" Badge left over for you after the others have collected theirs.

    :)

    Ann Shelbourne
    REAL WORLD EXPERT
    Günter_Schenk
    Inspiring
    March 3, 2009
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    In that spirit, I hereby designate all Adobe Forum Contributors as "REAL WORLD EXPERTS" and suggest that they append this designation to all future Posts.
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    no, this one is already reserved for us Community Experts -- but wait, I see that "real underworld expert" is still available ;-)
    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    March 3, 2009
    But but but ... Ann, now you'll have to give everybody advice about everything! Oh, wait <vbg>