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oh my gosh!
sadly hearing that from you! a person to which i belived being open to ART in any case!

Does she really sing "**** them all"?
Do you really can translate any word she is singing about?

prove it and i release you from any gods that exist!

Thomas:

Your juvenile attitude, and the Link that you have just posted, are inappropriate in these Forums.

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Dave:

I don't think that anyone is worried about letting Adobe transmit the contents of the Forums pages because obviously no-one would post material that they didn't wish other Users to see.

What is outrageous and egregious is Adobe laying claim to OWNERSHIP of anything posted on their sites and stating that they then have the right to use it for any purpose.

Clause 8 of the TOS reads:

8. Use of Your Content.

a. Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, except as provided in Section 8(b), you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display Your Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate Your Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed.

[Emphasis: mine]

This is simply outrageous Theft by stealth and look how upset Adobe gets when others pirate their intellectual property!

There is more to Clause 8 and then look at Clause 10!

>you agree that Adobe may derive revenue and/or other remuneration from Your Content that you Make Available via the Services without payment to you.

It has been suggested that hosting our images on Pixentral or our own Servers will not protect our Rights either if we Link to those sites from Adobe's web sites.

This subject needs immediate clarification, and a rewrite of the TOS, by Adobe's Legal Department if Adobe do not want to destroy the effectiveness of the Photography and other Graphic Arts Forums.

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If you haven't looked at the TOS recently, I suggest that you should do so for your own protection before posting any more of your valuable Copyright work in these Forums.

http://www.adobe.com/misc/copyright.html

I'm having trouble arresting souls in Opera 9.6.4.

digital rights may be invaluable, but hey, do i give a damn about digital rights?

my dignity as a human beeing goes over all, and if someone will take advantage of MY art, he can do it with any purpose, but in the end, if i die that very moment, he will keep nothing else in his hands than a legend, and that's the worst side about collecting art.

it's just about arresting souls

certain rights are required for adobe to store and transmit across the internet. any beyond that?

Most real artists are very concerned with protecting their Copyright.

If your work is not of the calibre that might have value, either now or in the future, then I guess that you have no need to understand the implications of Clause 8.

ok Ann, i'm really sorry disturbing you. The only Photographs and Images that i'm creating for experi-mental purposes is "Artist's shit", influenced by Piero Manzoni (wiki that), i think just a few people will feel affected or even interested in that.
my next exibithion is called "to whom i commit", originaly it means "do i have to vomit?"

i'm an artist, who cares about me?

> the option to add graphics, link to videos is there, so why complaining about the terms?

Thomas:

If you ever actually create original Art or Photographs which have value, you would understand our concern about Clause 8.

Have you actually READ the TOS and Clause 8.?

And do you realise what Rights you may be giving away if you post images on Adobe's web sites?