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Adobe Acrobat when doing a signature which invalidates previous signature

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March 24, 2022
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Hi, I have a problem when I digitally sign a document that has signed once in Acrobat Acrobat states that previous signature "the document has changed after signing" but no changes have been made and the current signature is valid Why does Reader say so and state that the previous signature is invalid?

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Whispering_Zest3528

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The issue arises because Adobe Acrobat detects changes in the document after it was initially signed. Even minor alterations, like metadata updates or invisible changes, can cause this. To resolve it:

Check for Invisible Changes: Review recent edits or metadata modifications.
Update Software: Ensure both Acrobat and Reader are up-to-date.
Inspect Signature Fields: Verify if signature fields or properties were altered.
Re-sign if Necessary: Re-sign the document to correct any discrepancies.

MikelKlink

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The issue arises because Adobe Acrobat detects changes in the document after it was initially signed. Even minor alterations, like metadata updates or invisible changes, can cause this.

While the steps you enumerate generally are a good approach, the issue with the example PDFs at hand differs, see the answers above.

Amal.

Community Manager

Hi there

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Once the PDF is signed and the signature process is complete, the PDF gets locked for further editing. Even adding new signatures is not allowed. If somehow you sign the already signed PDF it will eventually invalidate the previous signature.

Hope this information will help.

Regards

Amal

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237286667dqyAuthor

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Yeah.once the PDF is signed，the PDF gets locked for further editing.

below figure shows the previous signature pdf document properties:

The program sign the other PDF document sequentiallly cannot invalidate the previous signature but expect for this document.

MikelKlink

Participating Frequently

Can you share an example twice-signed PDF for analysis?

And can you clarify how you sign? Your question can be interpreted to only imply that you use Adobe Acrobat to validate the signature, the signature may have been created using a different software.

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237286667dqyAuthor

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As shown above,The part above the line marked with Rev1 is revision 1 of the document.When signing the document with a second signature, the program don’t change any of the bytes of revision 1. We add additional content (provided that the first signature allows this content), and
we create a new signature. This new signature is based on a message digest that includes the entire byte array of revision 1. The result is revision 2. When signing the document with a third signature,the bytes of revision 2 are preserved.

Note:the signature contents format is PKCS7.

The previous signature pdf is in below attachment and you can sign this file secondly.

first.pdf

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237286667dqyAuthor

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Concerning your new attachment: It has a broken AcroForm structure. Page 1 references numerous form field widgets with merged-in form fields but the Fields array in the AcroForm object is empty (in the original revision) or only contains signature fields (in the signed revisions).

Adobe Acrobat repairs this in its internal representation of the document when loading the PDF. The check for disallowed changes in incremental updates after a signature reacts strongly to such repairs...

So how can we avoid this case in signature process?It takes account of law affair。

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