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How to change page size in Acrobat Pro XI 11.0.23

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Hi,

I do not mean to change from A4 to A3 or like.

I mean to adjust the exact size of inches for a custom paper size.

The reason for asking is that I have a file that needs to be printed and it has a lot of margins, so after removing all margins using the crop pages toolboxes, I am still not satisfied but the result for the printed document, because it still has some margins, while the soft copy has no margins at all.

So I thought about having a custom page size, then printing it.

I will print it on A4 paper.

This is the page after the crop:

This is the page in print preview:

So is there any way or workaround to remove all margins and print without margins? I mean to let the printed paper page be precisely like the cropped one without margins.

The real printed paper page is exactly as shown in the preview, which is not what I am looking for.

Thanks

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Correct answer bebarth

Thanks a lot, @bebarth for the fast reply.

Please, may I use this script with Acrobat Pro XI 11.0.23?

Here is the last script I used for the book I sent you back in PM:

d0=new Date();
starting=util.printd("mm/dd/yy – HH:MM:ss",d0);
var found=0;
for (var p=0; p<this.numPages; p++) {
	console.clear();
	console.println("Process starting: "+starting);
	console.println("Processing the page #"+(p+1)+"/"+this.numPages);
	if (this.getPageNumWords(p)) {
		var thisPage=this.getPageBox("Crop",p);
		var topAlign=780;
		var bottomAlign=90;
		var topLine=0;
		var header="";
		var bottomLine=0;
		var footer="";
		var topChapter=0;
		var chapter="";
		var leftMargin=Number(thisPage[2]);
		var topMargin=0;
		var rightMargin=0;
		var bottomMargin=Number(thisPage[1]);
		for (var i=0; i<this.getPageNumWords(p); i++) {
			var pagination=0;
			var q=this.getPageNthWordQuads(p,i);
			var m=(new Matrix2D).fromRotated(this,p);
			var mInv=m.invert();
			var r=mInv.transform(q);
			var r=r.toString();
			var r=r.split(",");
			if (Number(r[1])>35 && Number(r[1])<820) {
				if (Number(r[1])>topAlign) {
					if (!topLine && Number(r[0])<77) {
						var header=header+this.getPageNthWord(p,i,true)+" - ";
						var theAlignment="left";
					} else if (Number(r[6])>590) {
						header+="- "+this.getPageNthWord(p,i,true);
						var theAlignment="right";
					} else header+=this.getPageNthWord(p,i,false);
					topLine++;
				}
				if (Number(r[1])<bottomAlign) {
					bottomLine++;
					//var footer=this.getPageNthWord(p,i,true);
				}
				if (Number(r[0])<leftMargin) leftMargin=Number(r[0]);
				if (Number(r[1])>topMargin) topMargin=Number(r[1]);
				if (Number(r[6])>rightMargin) rightMargin=Number(r[6]);
				if (Number(r[7])<bottomMargin) bottomMargin=Number(r[7]);
			}
		}
		this.setPageBoxes({
			cBox: "Crop",
			nStart: p,
			rBox: [leftMargin-2,topMargin,rightMargin-2,bottomMargin-2]
		});
		var thisPage=this.getPageBox("Crop",p);
		if (topLine && (theAlignment=="right" || (theAlignment=="left" && header.length<60))) {
			var f=this.addField("header"+p,"text",p,[0,thisPage[1],thisPage[2],thisPage[1]-22]);
			f.textSize=10;
			f.alignment="center";
			f.textFont=font.HelvB;
			f.fillColor=color.white;
			f.value=header;
		}
		if (bottomLine) {
			var f=this.addField("footer"+p,"text",p,[0,12,thisPage[2],0]);
			f.textSize=0;
			f.alignment="center";
			f.textFont=font.HelvB;
			f.fillColor=color.white;
			f.value=this.getPageLabel(p);
		}
		found++;
	}
}
if (found) {
	this.flattenPages();
	this.saveAs(this.path.replace(/.pdf$/i," \(Cropped\).pdf"));
	df=new Date();
	ending=util.printd("mm/dd/yy – HH:MM:ss",df);
	temps=(df.valueOf()-d0.valueOf())/1000/60;
	var theMinutes=parseInt(temps);
	var theSeconds=(temps-theMinutes)*60;
	var theSeconds=parseInt(theSeconds*10)/10;
	var theTime="";
	if (theMinutes>0) {
		if (theMinutes==1) var theTime="1 minute";
		else var theTime=theMinutes+" minutes";
	}
	if (theSeconds>0) {
		if (theSeconds<2) var theTime=theTime+" "+theSeconds+" second";
		else var theTime=theTime+" "+theSeconds+" seconds";
	}
	var theTime=theTime.replace(/^\s+|\s+$/gm,"");
	var plurial=found>1?"s":"";
	var txt="Process starting: "+starting+"\rProcess ending: "+ending+"\rProcess duration: "+theTime+"\r\r"+found+"/"+this.numPages+" page"+plurial+" cropped.";
	console.clear();
	console.println(txt);
	app.alert(txt,3);
}

Attached is a pdf file with a header and a footer you can use if some pages are not correct.

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_MGadAllah_Author

Known Participant

Hi,

Just want to sincerely thank every member here in the community as it is a treasure indeed, and especially @bebarth for the invaluable and amazing help I've got.

Thanks a lot indeed.

Thanks,Mohamed GadAllah

Dave Creamer of IDEAS

Community Expert

The best way to thank those who helped you would be to mark those answers as correct.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)

_MGadAllah_Author

Known Participant

I've marked the replies that provided solutions as the correct answer.

But there are too many other useful replies, may I mark more?

Thanks,Mohamed GadAllah

_MGadAllah_Author

Known Participant

Hi,

Please, I am digging more and more to find desired results.

Please, and sorry for bothering you, but here is the editable copy of my PDF file:

After I do the crop for all pages, I get this result:

Which is fine and good enough for me.

Now after crop pages using Set Pages Boxes, I found some parts of pages are trimmed, which is making sense of course.

When I hit the Edit PDF option I can find all text editable, so does there is a way to move the headers inside a few inches?

Like here:

So here after I did the crop:

Now when I click on edit PDF I get everything editable, like here:

So my question is:

The area at the far top left of the page, where it says the title of the chapter and book, is an editable box that exists on all pages all over the document, so does there is any way or any profile in PreFlight settings to move the title to the right for all pages, so I can see the title after I cropped the pages?

I mean like this:

So is it doable?

I hope that I was able to express my point correctly.

This is the final result after the crop:

Which is good for me.

I do hope that you may help 🙂

Thanks,Mohamed GadAllah

bebarth

Community Expert

I am not a preflight specialist, but it should not be possible to move text with a preflight profile.

What is possible to do with a script is to copy the text of this first line and add a white field containing this text at the right position and which will hide the original text.

With your screenshots, I guess you didn't use my scripts to crop pages.

If you want to add the header at a correct place, you will have to use a script...

Is it possible for you to share a few pages (about 20 with different chapters) of your file.

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bebarth

Community Expert

Hi,

Thanks a lot for your valuable time helping me.

I guess you didn't use my scripts to crop pages.
If you want to add the header at a correct place, you will have to use a script...
Is it possible for you to share a few pages (about 20 with different chapters) of your file.
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By @bebarth

Yes, I was not able to figure out how to use the script and even YouTube videos were not helpful for me.

I am spending a lot of hours so far to figure it out, please excuse my ignorance 😞

I di appreciated the wonderful help I am getting here in the community.

The first trial to remove only the margins and I used the PreFlight to convert the trim box to crop box, is the file titled:

1. Pages from crop.pdf

And the other trial where I removed extra margins and I want to replace the title box at the top is in the file titled:

2. final Pages from crop.pdf

So you will use the 2nd file titled "2. final Pages from crop.pdf" to adjust the header.

Please, if possible you may share the steps or the technique you will follow so I can learn as this is the most important thing for me regarding this issue.

Thanks for your understanding!

Hi,

Here is what I did for you.

1) Open your file "1.Pages from crop.pdf" then type ctrl J to open the console window.

If the console window is not empty, click on the trash at the bottom right of the window.

2) Copy and paste the following script in the console window.

d0=new Date();
starting=util.printd("mm/dd/yy – HH:MM:ss",d0);
var found=0;
var leftAlign=100;
var topAlign=800;
var bottomAlign=25;
for (var p=0; p<this.numPages; p++) {
	console.clear();
	console.println("Process starting: "+starting);
	console.println("Processing the page #"+(p+1)+"/"+this.numPages);
	if (this.getPageNumWords(p)) {
		var topLine=0;
		var header="";
		var bottomLine=0;
		var footer="";
		var topChapter=0;
		var chapter="";
		var thisPage=this.getPageBox("Crop",p);
		var leftMargin=thisPage[2];
		var topMargin=0;
		var rightMargin=0;
		var bottomMargin=thisPage[1];
		for (var i=0; i<this.getPageNumWords(p); i++) {
			var q=this.getPageNthWordQuads(p,i);
			var m=(new Matrix2D).fromRotated(this,p);
			var mInv=m.invert();
			var r=mInv.transform(q);
			var r=r.toString();
			var r=r.split(",");
			if (Number(r[0])<leftAlign) {
				if (Number(r[1])>topMargin) topMargin=r[1];
				if (Number(r[7])<bottomMargin) bottomMargin=r[7];
				
				if (Number(r[7])>topAlign) topLine++;
				else if (Number(r[7])<bottomAlign) bottomLine++;
				else if (!topChapter) {
					topChapter++;
					var theBottom=Number(r[7]);
					topMargin=Number(r[1])+50;
				}
			}
			if (topLine && Number(r[7])>topAlign) header+=this.getPageNthWord(p,i,false);
			else if (bottomLine && Number(r[7])<bottomAlign) footer+=this.getPageNthWord(p,i,true);
			else if (topChapter && Number(r[7])==theBottom) chapter+=this.getPageNthWord(p,i,false);
			else {
				if (Number(r[0])<leftMargin) leftMargin=r[0];
				if (Number(r[1])>topMargin) topMargin=r[1];
				if (Number(r[6])>rightMargin) rightMargin=r[6];
				if (Number(r[7])<bottomMargin) bottomMargin=r[7];
			}
		}
		this.setPageBoxes({
			cBox: "Crop",
			nStart: p,
			rBox: [leftMargin,topMargin,rightMargin,bottomMargin]
		});
		var thisPage=this.getPageBox("Crop",p);
		if (topLine) {
			var f=this.addField("header"+p,"text",p,[0,thisPage[1],thisPage[2],thisPage[1]-22]);
			f.textSize=10;
			f.textFont=font.HelvB;
			f.fillColor=color.white;
			f.value=header;
		}
		if (topChapter) {
			var f=this.addField("header"+p,"text",p,[0,thisPage[1],thisPage[2],thisPage[1]-22]);
			f.textSize=10;
			f.textFont=font.HelvB;
			f.fillColor=color.white;
			f.value=chapter;
		}
		if (bottomLine) {
			var f=this.addField("footer"+p,"text",p,[0,22,thisPage[2],0]);
			f.textSize=14;
			f.textFont=font.HelvB;
			f.fillColor=color.white;
			f.value=footer;
		}
		found++;
	}
}
if (found) {
	this.flattenPages();
	this.saveAs(this.path.replace(/.pdf$/i," \(Cropped\).pdf"));
	df=new Date();
	ending=util.printd("mm/dd/yy – HH:MM:ss",df);
	temps=(df.valueOf()-d0.valueOf())/1000/60;
	var theMinutes=parseInt(temps);
	var theSeconds=(temps-theMinutes)*60;
	var theSeconds=parseInt(theSeconds*10)/10;
	var theTime="";
	if (theMinutes>0) {
		if (theMinutes==1) var theTime="1 minute";
		else var theTime=theMinutes+" minutes";
	}
	if (theSeconds>0) {
		if (theSeconds<2) var theTime=theTime+" "+theSeconds+" second";
		else var theTime=theTime+" "+theSeconds+" seconds";
	}
	var theTime=theTime.replace(/^\s+|\s+$/gm,"");
	var plurial=found>1?"s":"";
	var txt="Process starting: "+starting+"\rProcess ending: "+ending+"\rProcess duration: "+theTime+"\r\r"+found+"/"+this.numPages+" page"+plurial+" cropped.";
	console.clear();
	console.println(txt);
	app.alert(txt,3);
}

3) Select all this script typing ctrl A.

4) Press the "ENTER" key of the numerical panel or the corresponding combinaison of the keypad (certainly ctrl Return).

5) The script run.

Attached is the result file from your file.

Here is the positions of the margins in your original file if you try to modify them for an other book...

I hope you will understand and will be able to use and modify this script...

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...in the last screenshot, read "pts".

1-Pages_from_crop_(Cropped).pdf

Dave Creamer of IDEAS

Community Expert

I don't believe your cropped page has the same ratio (proportion) as your printed paper size, so it would be impossible not to have some margin on either the left/right or the top/bottom depending on the ratio.

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)

_MGadAllah_Author

Known Participant

Thanks for your reply.

Please, what would you suggest I do to fix such a thing to have printed paper with as narrow margins as possible?

Thanks,Mohamed GadAllah

Dave Creamer of IDEAS

Community Expert

You will have to crop (or reflow the text if you have an editable file).

For example, to fit your image on an 8.5x11 inch page:

David Creamer: Community Expert (ACI and ACE 1995-2023)

Luke Jennings3

Community Expert

It looks like your cropped page is narrower than your paper. In order for the left and right margins to be removed, you will first need to distort the page, you can do this with a preflight profile (scale pages to specified size) or place the pdf into an InDesign or Illustrator page, scale it to fit, export to a new pdf.

_MGadAllah_Author

Known Participant

It looks like your cropped page is narrower than your paper.By @Luke Jennings3

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, exactly!

In order for the left and right margins to be removed, you will first need to distort the page, you can do this with a preflight profile (scale pages to specified size).By @Luke Jennings3

Please, may you tell me how to do so for my XI Pro version, I've googled and searched and the only things I've found regarding the preflight is this thread here:

Here

I am afraid that these steps are not suitable for my XI Pro version.

or place the pdf into an InDesign or Illustrator page, scale it to fit, export to a new pdf.By @Luke Jennings3

Do I need to do so for every page? or it is could be at once for the whole document?

Thanks,Mohamed GadAllah

Luke Jennings3

Community Expert

I don't know if there is a preflight profile in Acrobat XI that can scale a page, in the preflight panel, type the word "scale" in the preflight search area after clicking the blue wrench icon.

If you have InDesign, you can use the "Place Multipage pdf" script to place a multi-page pdf into an InDesign file with one step, once you determine the desired distortion factor (say 115w x100H) you can apply the transformation to each InDesign page (Object> Transform again).

Amal.

Community Manager

Hi @_MGadAllah_

Hope you are doing well and thanks foe reaching out.

Please go through the help page https://acrobatusers.com/tutorials/how-to-create-a-custom-page-size/ and see if that works.

Note: Acrobat XI is an EOL application and not supported on latest Mac and Win OS. https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/end-of-support-acrobat-xi-reader-xi.html

Regards

Amal

_MGadAllah_Author

Known Participant

@Amal.

Thanks for your reply.

I tried to adjust the page sizes to various sizes but I am afraid that it is still printing with margins.

Regarding the EOL, I can not afford the monthly fees for the software upgrade, so I have no option except to stick to my current version, the latest update I get after installing a clean install for the software is 11.0.23, does there are any updates available for XI Pro?

Thanks,Mohamed GadAllah

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