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I am having some issues with Table borders in the finished PDF.
OS: Win10
Word--Office 365 ProPlus
Acrobat 11.0.23
Have a file with a table. The table has borders. When I PDF the doc and open the PDF, random horizontal borders are missing. They print properly, though.
Same result with using the PDF printer and the Word Save as PDF plugin.
There are multiple posts with similar issues, but I haven't seen any solutions.
Here's how the table looks in Word:
Here's how it looks in Acrobat (And Reader, and MS Edge):
Any suggestions?
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Unfortunately, by the time either Acrobat's PDFMaker, the Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance, or even Microsoft's built-in “save as PDF” gets the content, the formatting is already baked-in. In all cases, Word (and for that matter Excel and PowerPoint) create a Windows EMF stream from the original contents which is then used for print or PDF creation.
What can you try?
(1) One long-shot solution would be to adjust the setting for the current / default printer within Word to a significantly higher resolution. This may cause Office to allow a thinner line specification in the output. But I something think that this might not work.
(2) Byte the bullet and increase the width of the table border lines.
- Dov
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Whatever the problem is, it has to do with how the file is displayed rather than the content of the file. As I mentioned, the "missing" borders are present; they just don't display when the file is viewed at 100%. They show up when the file is printed, and if you adjust the zoom to 200% or higher.
I ended up increasing the border size to 1.5 points, and that more or less fixed the problem. The borders display, but there are some minor variances--some appear to be 1.5 points, some appear to be 1 point. I'll have to live with that.
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I believe this is a symptom of an issue that has existed in PDF files for a long time, where thin lines are displayed incorrectly at higher zoom levels.
Try this to fix it: Go to Edit - Preferences - Page Display and tick the "Enhance thin lines" box.
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Of course, this introduces other issues for files that don't really need that artificial enhancement!
- Dov
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If you save the word document with the problematic table borders as a .pdf, and then export the .pdf to a .tiff at a resolution suitable for your purposes (I export using Mac Preview at 600 ppi), and then export the .tiff back again to a pdf, the whacked table borders look to me to be entirely corrected. I am not an expert so "entirely corrected" should be taken with a grain of salt, but maybe this workaround can nonetheless still help someone experiencing the issue.
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Thanks for this tip. In my case "Enhance thin lines" was already checked in Adobe Reader (is this the default state for this setting?), and unchecking the box fixed the display issue with my table borders.
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I had this issue as well. Bloody annoying. Adobe doesn't care. They never have and they never will. Customer service is not a priority to them. Only money is.
But I do have a solution that might work - it worked for me. It looks like you have top and bottom padding set on the cells. Try setting that to 0pt and instead using line spacing (Paragraph > Spacing (Before / After) to create the padding effect. This immediately solved my problem. Having said that I'm also using thick borders - 1 1/2 pt.
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This (setting cell padding to zero and using paragraph spacing instead) fixed my issue of row banding colors bleeding into other cells. Thanks!
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Without entering a rant against Adobe, I agree this ought to be solved in Word only, therefore acknowledging Luke's approach. You can frequently observe such issues with borders appearing with no apparent reason just sticking to MS Word's interface, without ever exporting to PDF. So I think there's little to do with Acrobat and the PDF format there, and the border/padding settings are indeed a possibility.
Besides, I'd like to add a strange behavior I observed regarding borders, and I hope my experience will be of help to you guys.
It looks like setting no borders at all on a specific cell can sometimes do more "harm".
To make unwanted lines (borders?) disappear on a specific cell, you can try what follows:
Admittedly quite counterintuitive, this method proved to do the job.
Yet I can't explain what exact circumstances / settings lead to these borders appearing while none are selected.
So I'd be glad to know if this works as well on your side,
Sébastien
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This worked! Set cell margins to zero and used paragraph spacing to provide the white space needed. Brilliant. Thank you Luke - this problem has been plaguing me for years.
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This worked for me! Thank you. It didn't just add back in the missing lines (which were still missing no matter my adobe settings), but also fixed some of my borders that were showing at erratic weights (some 1.5, some at .5, etc).
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Thanks a lot.
It works and solved my problem.
Great Job.
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From what I can tell, this is Microsoft's bug, not Adobe's. It also happens with Word's built-in save-as-PDF. The problem seems to be that padding "fill" areas are rendered in front of the lines, obscuring them -- hence why removing padding is a common workaround. (You can see this if you go open the PDF in Acrobat and switch to edit mode, select the padding and "send to back".)
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THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH!!! Fixed the problem for me.
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Me as well . . . I thought it was maybe a Macintosh issue, but when I looked up the problem, I noticed MANY posts about this—one in particular noting that the problem has existed since 2004 (I'm sure before, but maybe he's referencing it being an issue noted on the forum). Any many of the people were Windows users. The two strings I followed for assistance/suggestions:
As it is really a presentation/screen problem which I'm assuming Adobe cannot control and does not know how to address so they stay quiet hoping people figure out a work-around, or realize it's not an *actual* problem (PDF and Word Doc I have print out just fine), merely visual. What I did do to help some of the border inconsistencies go away leaving only the most minute, barely noticeable issues on the onscreen viewed PDF, was to recreate the tables fresh and type the content back in myself. As I had many tables that were similar, I did this once, and then used the upper left corner selection icon, when hovering over that part of the table, to copy the entire thing and then manually make content adjustments. I did this because I realize that when you copy and paste in MS docs, it copies much formatting in the background which the user is not intending to paste. This did result in many border issues when we had copied the content of a top header row, into the cells of a secondary header row to make one row (in an effort to pass accessibility, which likes one header row, one header column!). When I recreated these tables and typed in directly rather than copy/pasting data, much of the border problems ceased to subsist. I also set that one table that was copied (different than copy/pasting data from within table cells), to border width of .75 points, which wasn't too big and ugly, but made the borders look more solid. Just my 2 cents! Hope it helps.
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I had a similar issue while converting word document to pdf. I tried different options, it dint work as the word doc looked fine but pdf had issues. So I used the table tools for border and selected all the cells facong this line/border issue and selected the option of all all borders under the dropdown of Borders. This made all the cells bordered witht the default border. U can now change the border specs using a format painer. Dont know how and why it works internally, but it does. Hope it helps.
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This is an adobe issue - if you go to Acrobat Preferences, Page Display and then UNCHECK Enhance thin lines this will force acrobat to display the lines properly - so your pdfs from word, powerpoint etc should look correct.
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Great - thanks - this one worked for me.
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This is an easy fix, thanks for this!
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Two solutions that have worked well for me:
1) Set all table/cell margins to 0 and then use line spacing to achieve the desired result. (Suggested by Luke Grayson)
2) Save file as .odt > open file with LibreOffice > save as PDF (this could be quicker if you have lots of tables which you don't want to have to adjust spacing etc.)
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LibreOffice method did it for me! Thanks,
Didnt have to mess around with modifying my tables, which were all done intentionally with spacing and margins to make it look right. Wish Office would fix this. Thanks to LibreOffice for the solution here