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Nudity and other issues which appear to violate Adobe Generative AI Guidelines [merged thread]

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August 26, 2022
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Hello Adobe and its collective users

I am writing to you not only as a devoted user of Adobe’s suite of creative tools but also as a professional photographer whose work has been recognized and displayed in museum settings. My specialization in classic nudes has allowed me to explore the human form in a manner that celebrates beauty, form, and artistic expression. However, I have encountered a significant challenge with the AI restrictions placed on editing images that contain nudity, even when such images are created within a professional, artistic context.

As an artist whose work often involves nuanced and sensitive subjects, I understand and respect the complexities of creating ethical AI tools that serve a wide user base. However, the current limitations significantly impact my creative process and professional workflow, particularly when it comes to editing backgrounds for nude or semi-nude images. These restrictions not only prolong my work but also inhibit my artistic expression, compelling me to seek alternative solutions that may not offer the same level of quality and integration as Adobe’s products.

I propose the consideration of the following points, which I believe could benefit both Adobe and its professional users:

Artistic Integrity and Professional Use: Recognition of the professional and artistic context in which tools are used can help differentiate between content that is genuinely creative and that which the restrictions aim to prevent.

Ethical Use Policy: An ethical use policy that accommodates professional artists and photographers, possibly through a verification process, ensuring that our work is not unduly censored while maintaining legal and ethical standards.

Custom Solutions for Professionals: The development of specialized software versions that allow more flexibility for editing sensitive content, with appropriate safeguards to prevent misuse.

Feedback and Advisory Panel: Establishing a panel of professionals from the art and photography community to provide ongoing feedback and insights on how Adobe’s tools can better serve creative professionals.

Transparent Guidelines: The creation of clear, transparent guidelines that navigate the legal and ethical landscape, especially regarding sensitive content, to ensure users can understand and comply with Adobe’s policies.

I am fully committed to engaging in a constructive dialogue and am willing to be part of a solution that respects both the creative needs of artists and the ethical considerations of digital content. I believe that by working together, we can find a balanced approach that supports artistic expression while adhering to shared values and responsibilities.

Thank you for considering my perspective on this matter. I am hopeful for an opportunity to discuss this further and explore how we can make Adobe’s tools even more inclusive and accommodating for professional artists and photographers. Steven Williams

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Marcin_Be

Participant

I am trying to use generative AI on pictures containing nudity (covered nudity), not eroting in nature etc. only to expand background, why cannot I do this?

As I understand, adobe rules is as follows:

Do not use Adobe’s generative AI features to attempt to create, upload, or share abusive, or illegal, or content that violates the rights of others. This includes, but is not limited to, the following:

Pornographic material or explicit nudity

And I am trying to do none of those things. Why is adobe assuming I am trying to create or upload abusive material just because it contains naked skin (not even exposed nudity)? I am not even trying to alter the person in the photo in any way but only to expand the damn background. The photo taken during photoshoot on mututally agreed terms.

So effectively we cannot use generative fill as long as adobe detects any kind of exposed skin present on the photo?

Trevor.Dennis

Community Expert

Ai is under intense scrutiny and getting bad press from media and governments, so Adobe are being careful not to be seen promoting the misuse of Ai generated images.

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Jake32004707sg2m

Participant

We as the creators should decide what we should create, and their shouldn't be filters telling us what is and is not appropriate, vote to require a setting to be activated for the filter to be on, and we should choose whether to have it on or not.

From Nothing

Participant

I completely agree. We all have our own unique reasons for using this tool so there should be virtually no censorship so as long as we aren't using the content to incite violence or something.

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Scott312084883oi7

Participant

Why are images censored? Is it a setting I'm unaware of? And what exactly is forbidden? Because I've had it censor pics that could not possibly be in violation.

Myra Ferguson

Community Expert

Here are Adobe's Generative AI Guidelines:

https://www.adobe.com/legal/licenses-terms/adobe-gen-ai-user-guidelines.html

You might check section 2 to see if your prompts fell into any of those categories.

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David341733502ldl

Participant

You need to liberalize your guidelines. Censorship of historical events and people makes your product inferior.

ms58149619

Participant

So I have this problem - I did pregnancy photoshoot for my client and I would like to extend the white background, the problem is that I cannot use generative fill because the women is naked.All the intimate areas are covered but I still cannot use the generative fill. Is there anyway to go around this restriction or maybe there will be an update that separates extremely nude photography from actual pregnancy shoots?

gener7

Community Expert

If it's a simple background, one thought is the Crop Tool using Content Aware Fill option.. Just input the Aspect Ratio and if you have a batch of images, make it a Crop Preset.

ms58149619

Participant

That's one option but the problem is that my white background is not smooth enough and there are some spots that light was just "ugly" 😅. So I use it to create "new" white background as well, and of course it's way faster then doing content aware fill. And when I used this option it's failed anyway giving me the message that I have not enough ram spece to use this feature which is just ridiculous with 16gb

Dario de Judicibus

Known Participant

I have tried the beta version of FireFly and I find it very interesting, but before tackling the purchase of the official version with a PhotoShop license there is one issue that should be clarified. As an illustrator, I need a tool that produces exactly what I want, without going into the merits. With the beta version I found myself faced with a serious problem. Not only does the AI not accept prompts like "naked woman on piano in black and white" which, in terms of art and photography, are absolutely valid, but also things like "chicken breast on the grill" that I had to generate to associate with a recipe of cooking, which is really ridiculous. Is there a possibility in the paid version to remove these absurd limits?

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Samuel35028803pawo

Participant

Agreed. I'm using the full version now, but still I cannot generate a cowboy holding a smoking gun. "Smoking" and "gun" are screened. Colt 45, screened. Looking for other AI because Adobe Firefly is censor happy. I understand that Adobe doesn't want to be held liable for assisting in creating inflammatory imagery. However, my client needs something specific, and if Adobe cannot deliver, why pay such a high price? It's like buying a power drill that yells at you when you go to use it.

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Chris36872350tl55

Participant

its like buying a power drill and it wont turn on if you're building a bedroom because people get naked in it.

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Cyndi25639385sikt

Participating Frequently

I'm curious if Adobe actually screens their images, which would make having a "safe search" button purposeful. You might as well remove it, because I can tell you, it ain't working. If you need our help, even though we have work to do and aren't getting paid to make Adobe appear professional, it would be nice to have a button on each image enabling us to report inappropriate imagery to you, so that you can then flag these images. I'm sure I am not the first person to say something, so please, since we are paying for your service, please listen to us and do something about it. I know some women don't mind exploiting themselves, but I'd rather not see it since, being a woman, I think women are worth so much more than their bodies.

Thank you...

WendellaBee

Adobe Employee

Hi @Cyndi25639385sikt,
I appreciate your concerns, you are not alone and our Search team is continually improving and updating what is included or excluded in safe search.

If you can provide details, either here or send it to me in a private message I can forward this to the appropriate team for review.

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Cyndi25639385sikt

Participating Frequently

I looked up "beauty black background" to find a beauty shot for a salon, specifically a salon hairstyle with a dark background. I see several images of women in sexual poses wearing strings and one photo of completely exposed breasts. If that's specific enough for Adobe. All you have to do is a search for beauty images and there you go. It's been going on for years and other people have made complaints. I've even seen a couple in sexual position with hardly a scrap of "clothing" before. I also did a chat with a rep and got the usual, sorry, we'll look into it. I know that Adobe may have limited employees at this time, but if there is way to prevent these images from even being uploaded in the first place, that would be easier for you to deal with. I understand that I do not know the process by which Adobe gets images from stock photographers, but IMO, they shouldn't be able to upload anything without it being approved first. If this is not doable, then there needs to be a way for us to flag images so they are immediately removed from safe search.

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