V2 verses V3 quality

[Dave Gustafson]

I have extreme respect, admiration for the Firefly team and engineers, but something has gone off the rails concerning the V3 preview. This isn't a question, so I placed it in this section of bugs. If I didn't care about Firefly I wouldn't be here showing examples.

These are direct renders of "multiple generations" using V3 preview off the original V2 file. I will show the V2 first, then V3 will follow each image. I kept trying to get a good image from V3, yes it's a preview, but it needs to be addressed. These are the best of the best V3 images. And with that said I'll shut up lol and let you judge.

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[rickg76305781]

In this example, the subject outputs are similar but the image 3 output appears to be "cleaner" and more of a refined vector illustartion or cartoon vs image 2 outputs which is more "raw". 

I expect some variation within each image group. I am applying 7 parameters varation is expected. BUT  as you can see. I tried multiple iterations with both image 2 and image 3. The results within each image group were generally consistant but were markedly different between 2 vs 3. raw vs refined. rough vs vector illuustration.

rickg

[@mj]

Perhaps an explanation on how and why the gen engines are decided upon.

Please consider leaving previous gen engines active.

mj

iMSD

[Amy27298162kmmg]

I agree. Please let us have access to Image 1 model again. In looking closer at my Image 2 model results, they are not as good as the Image 1 results. And the Image 3 results are not even usable for me. I loved the results when I first started using the Image 1. Now I'm losing interest.

[BlueJeanBaby]

Same prompt/styles, etc. here. V3's results - just awful. Embarrassing at best. I'm glad you're here in this thread, Kartika - I trust you'll pass along all this feedback. Thanks. 

[BlueJeanBaby]

Version 2 and 3 here, respectively. Same exact styles/prompts, etc.

[BlueJeanBaby]

What 3 generated is laughable and amateurish at best! 

 

[BlueJeanBaby]

Another example (please see this, and the following reply). Version 2 - cute little dragon on a skateboard...

 

[BlueJeanBaby]

. . . Then this (see prior reply). Version 3. I wonder if anyone has a worse example than this? Adobe - are you going to continue to allow this 'quality' with Model 3? Please keep V2 up! 

 

[droopydog500]

These strengthen my belief that from a realism perspective, 3>2 and from an artistic perspective 2>3...

    droopy

[BlueJeanBaby]

Agreed...somewhat. What realism though do those represent? lol  - But yes, in general, you're correct. 

[droopydog500]

I think those are a side effect of the realism push. Try to make everything look realistic.  That obviously does not always work out.

[BlueJeanBaby]

Most definitely. Why even have the 'art' capability then? Every prompt/style/formula worked before - no matter how many effects, themes, movements, concepts, etc. that I used. They've seriously limited the capabilities now in their quest for 'realism'. I've also noticed an Asian slant to many generation results, when nothing even was prompted as such. 

[william_8613]

Exactly! Here it is October and no improvements. My usual style choices for cartoon/anime art keep coming out like realism photos no matter the changes I choose. Finally, I switched to v2 out of curiousity and got what I was looking for.

[Amy27298162kmmg]

Is it just me, or does Image 2 even seem worse than it used to be? 

[Mark DeMent]

It's not just you. Version 2 results recently have been much worse. But still better than 3. I can't use anything I've generated from 3. Everything looks like a bad Disney animation cell. I hope they return 2 to it's original state, and keep it.