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omidsolo
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October 26, 2019
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Prevent Maxon Cinema 4D Force Install

  • October 26, 2019
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Why Adobe is force installing it with no option to prevent the installation at first place?

 

Each platform has standards, Microsoft has some guidelines!

Adobe should provide an option during setup, instead they just fill up our PCs with bloatware!

Don't believe me? Check after Adobe products' install how many services and processes are always running!

 

Solution is simple: Place a CheckBox on initial setup window: "Install C4D"!

Uninstall PS/AE/PR/ME and you'll see many of app files/folders/registry entries are not removed afterwards!

I'm truely appalled...

    Correct answer JohnColombo17100380

    Hi all,

    As noted here, installing C4D is now optional when installing After Effects 2023 and later. More details on how to choose whether or not to install C4D are available here: https://helpx.adobe.com/after-effects/using/whats-new/2023.html#C4D-optional-installer 

     

    - John, After Effects Engineering Team 

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    Warren Heaton
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    Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    October 26, 2019

    You could manually remove it, but I'm not sure why you would want to.

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    Anonymous
    February 21, 2020

    I love the arrogance in these forums..

     

    Hello, After-Effects user with NO need of Cinema4D! And NO software company owns my PC and tells me what to install and what not! This applies to forced Cinema4D install and the Adobe Suite itself (I have to disable the auto-start services on every update of the suite again, because Adobe and Co think their software is the most important thing for every user and has to run all the time the PC is on. Spoiler: It isn't.)

     

    I am a Maya User for 20 years and Adobe stuff for 25, an I use AfterFX and Premiere only for simple stuff and sometimes for cutting VR videos. That's why people invented Addons for example, so people can dis- or enable features on demand. Speeding up start-up and lowering memory footprint. Sometimes also stabilizing running software/the whole machine.

     

    This whole thread reminds me of one in the Adobe forum about 15 years ago when someone asked why Adobe products do support multi-screens so badly and do not have customizable keyboard shortcuts. And the first answers where "No one needs more than 1 screen and customized shortcuts! If you do you have a problem with your working pipeline".

     

    Mr. Heaton, please read the posts you are replying to, carefully. I used Windows Multi-Screen even in the 90s, and I was talking about ADOBE, not Windows!

     

    btw: Cannot reply, the button disappears without any effect after clicking it, even on different browsers!?

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      Anonymous
      February 24, 2020

      If there's anything on your computer that you don't like, you should remove it - especially if you do not trust the source.  If you do trust the source, there is no harm in leaving it.  For example, I never use iMovie, Pages, nor Numbers; however, I leave them installed and it does not bother me that Apple includes them with macOS in any way whatsoever.

       

      I advocate for being able to customize an installation.  

       

      Adobe is very open to user input.  This forum is not the place for it.  The Adobe User-voice pages are.  

       

      If it's free, it's freeware (not software).

       

      We're not talking about bloatware here.  We're talking about industry leading software that is well documented.  So, the asnwer to the original post is, "No, you cannot prevent the install of Maxon Cinema 4D Lite, but you can uninstall it at any time.  See the user documentation for how to do this."

       

       


      1) no one has told you to encourage anybody
      2) if you have nothing useful to add just leave it alone. "just uninstall what you do not like" is so poor and so wrong on so many levels I cannot describe it here, at least not at 5am.
      3) If I have to read a manual to use an installer.. of a company known for tools for UI/UX development.. wow, just wow
      4) Freeware is not Software.. It gets better and better. Is this a hidden camera thing!?
      5) World leading was never a quality indicator.
      #Don'tArgueWithAFanboy

      As you are not able to understand what people are talking and complaining here I stop reacting to you by here.

      I am following Adobe for decades now, and this company is known for ignoring user suggestions like no other. A goof example of how to do it right is Allegorithmic. But they are bought by Adobe a few months ago.. The whole community of Allegorithmic is panicking now how long it will take till it is as bad as Adobe's support. Just follow tons of postings in the Allegorithmic forum.
        Jose Panadero
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        Jose PanaderoCommunity Expert
        Community Expert
        October 26, 2019

        I cannot see any problem on this. It has a lot of sense to have an installation for Cinema 4D Lite and Cineware effect as a lot of mographers use C4D as their primary 3D tool for motion graphics and AE for 3D integration and post.

         

        Why do you think this is not a good option?

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          omidsoloAuthor
          Known Participant
          November 9, 2019

          Thanks, I didn't mean this tool is not good, I mean force installing of ANY 3rd party app/component with any software is NOT a good behavior and is a minus point in terms of development! They just have to give user an option to install it or not! We know that most applications leave footprints on the target system after uninstalling, both in registry and file system! Beside that, some customers won't use that! Thanks though...

            Warren Heaton
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            Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            February 21, 2020

            If it wasn't in the user documenation, I could agree with you on it being bad behavior; however, it is in the user documentation and an unistaller is provided.  It would be great if the current installer includes a Customize option that allows users disable unwaned components (we had this prior to the subscription model) rather than leave users to uninstall them after the fact.  If you happen to request that on the Adobe User-Voice pages, be sure to mention it back here and I'll go vote for it.  

             

            Although, I hope Adobe expands these partnerships.  It would be amazing to have more products included at the current subscription price:  Boris FX, Red Giant, Video Copilot, Digieffects, RE:Vision, Frischluft, Render Garden - just to name a few.  Any of the 3rd party options listed in the AE documention would be excellent.

             

             

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