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July 12, 2021
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Rotobrush slows down, then stops after trying to render simple short clips in Standard Def AND 1080p

  • July 12, 2021
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I can't take this anymore.

 

The last few weeks, rotobrush decides not to work.

 

On 1080p and also 720p....

Just one simple outline of a mans face. Simple stuff. Smooth lines.

 

Same thing always happens.  It starts doing about 3 frames per second, chugs along fine, then gets slower, then eventually hangs, after about 10 seconds of timeline.

 

1) I cleared out the media disc caches.

2) I have 32 gb of ram,  gtx1050ti, ryzen 7  a decent set up, especially for Standard Def!!!

It's on cuda, installed the latest driver and still slow!!!

Only thing I've done was make the usual updates. 

 

I'm losing it.

 

any ideas????

 

I selected 2.0 and quality STANDARD  and it reacts the same if I pick BEST.

 

1.0 is  nightmare, never use it.   I used to use 2.0 and BEST, and it would outline and render in a snap.

 

Some new Adobe bug out there making people upgrade their GPU's  again?? I don't want to throw money at this problem.  My gpu and ram should work fine for this.

 

AHHHHHHH!!!!!

 

 

 

 

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최고의 답변: Jordan Clay

Do you mean 18.1 version of After Effects? or just Roto? and if just Roto... how do you do that?

 Frank


You have to install after effects ver 18.1. you can do it by clicking on the creative cloud. Clicking on the three dots next to the open button and then other versions. Look for version 18.1 and install that. Don't worry it won't wipe any of your setting or projects. Then roto will magically work again. 

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Participant
December 2, 2021

I too was facing the same issue, and trying for hours to get it working. I upgraded from After Effects v18.4 to After Effects v22 (October 2021 release), and the Roto-brush did it work superfast. Quite impressed... finally! :)(:

 

Participant
October 25, 2021

I am a new student at TAFE and have this issue on a 23 second (60fps) clip, but I don't see any option to download 18.1...even cutting pieces to a couple of seconds, this brush slows to a crawl, and also takes a long time updating after a brush stroke change.

Plusmonkey
Participating Frequently
August 23, 2021

Switch to 18.1! This also worked for me! And Im on a Macbook 15" i7 16gb ram, 4gb graphic.

with the latest update it took 24h to propagate a 3sec clip. And now I dont need to worry about it. This is a complete mess from Adobes side. I Don't think this is accaptable...

Participating Frequently
August 3, 2021

Thank you for posting this issue @Letty2019 . I've been fighting this all month. Wasted more time then I care to admit by dumping progress and resstarting because I thought I had messed with something inadvertantly to make it act so slow and moody. Thanks @Jordan Clay  for the solution. I couldn't find v 18.1 for some reason. So I tried v 17.7.0 which I could find and it works like it used to. Super smooth and fast. Sanity is slowly returning👍 

Inspiring
August 3, 2021

Yeah, i refuse to update off of v18.1 for this reason. Tried every update after this and it destroys rotoscope. Plenty of people saying the same exact thing happening to them, I have posted this everywhere and they refuse to even acknowledge anything is wrong. Ive even replied directly to the developers and they ignore me. Hopefully they will fix it

Letty2019작성자
Legend
August 4, 2021

I'm starting to think Adobe is in bed with Nvidia and they are slowly weeding out older GPUs to work with After Effects, forcing people to buy newer and more $$$ GPUs. Surely Adobe must know about the problem, why else are they not fixing it?

Inspiring
July 15, 2021

Rotoscoping is part of my main income workflow its absoloutley needed. I had the same symptoms. Rolled AE version back to 8.1..... This was my only fix. I tried workarounds. I tried driver updates everything. Now my roto works with 130+ frames no stuck issue like this. Believe me roll bakc to 8.1

tehshawn
Participant
July 15, 2021

Do you mean 18.1? Version 8 came out in 2007.

Inspiring
July 15, 2021

test out 18.1 and let me know if it works for you too...solved all of my roto problems

Letty2019작성자
Legend
July 12, 2021

I read dozens of blogs, and there is so much info, it's almost impossible to self diagnose this issue.

BUT.....

I thought of a simple, and when I say simple, it's so simple I'm embarrassed to write it here, but I hope this helps....

 

Say you have a 10 or a 15 second clip (or much more) and your rotoscope "2.0 Best" rendering works fine for the first 5 seconds, then it starts to get slower and slower and then at 10 seconds, it's a crawl, then eventually it stops.....  (roto will die when trying mask something that has a complicated busy background)

 

Simple Solution:

 

Take your clip (remove rotoscope effect first) and simply slice it up into sections.  On your timeline just click where you want a break, like the 5 second mark, then:  Cntrol + Shift + D  that will make a slice and put the rest on another layer... then do it again for the next 5 seconds.... etc...etc.... until your clip is all broken up.

 

Now, you can rotoscope each section.  It's better because if you have an adjustment, it's just in one section, so it won't take a hour to fix it and re render the whole thing.

 

If still having problems, delete the rotoscoping, and also clear your cache out, then slice and dice, then add the rotoscope to each clip individually.

 

Only downside, you have to make a new rotoscope for each section (no big deal, at least it works now) Make the first section your master, and copy and paste the roto settings to each section.

 

This works well when you have a complicated roto and are using 2.0 Best.   

 

Hope this helps, it did me.

Letty

 

 

How to fix the first frame of each of your new sections....

You know when you rotoscope, the very first frame stinks, and frame 2 and on is great....

OK, now that your timeline is in bunch of sections, you don't want to deal with that 'bad frame at the start of each layer, so do this:

Say you are on layer 2, just pull the timeline to the left so one new frame appears and start your rotoscope on that frame, then when done, just tuck that frame back to the right to remove it. Or you can just leave it caz the layer above will block it from being seen, depends on how you made the order to all your new sliced up layers.

 

Of course that works on all the new layers, except your very first layer if you don't have the extra frames there...  but all frames after will be clean and pretty and you won't be tempted to buy a $1500 new gpu when your gpu works just fine.

 

tehshawn
Participant
July 12, 2021

I've tried this and AE, in all its wisdom, is still trying to propagate the other layers. It doesn't matter if I adjust the work area or turn off the layers, it barrels forward into completely lock-up.

Letty2019작성자
Legend
July 13, 2021

Hi, I added this to my checklist above.

 

Remove the rotoscope effect from your clip first.  Then slice it up and apply the rotoscope to each clip individually.

 

When I did it, I also cleared out my cache just incase anything in there was affecting the new renders.

tehshawn
Participant
July 12, 2021

I've had the same problem for over a month now. I've downgraded versions, done full uninstall and reinstall, changed cache folders, and even did a full clean wipe on my computer. Specs attached.