I hope every one of you conspiracy theory whining babies will be man enough to come back here and post a sincere apology when Adobe pulls this off, which I suspect they will. I will be first in line thanking them for their hard work. We all know that it is a smaller team than it once was, let the people do their work. I know if i was Adobe and was reading these forums, i would eventually start ignoring you too, they have serious work to focus on, they don't have time to play therapist to the world. I bet that there isn't a guy on this forum that could knock out a 64 bit compiler in a week. Everybody take a deep breathe. Adobe gave us a huge forewarning that flash was to be terminated. They will do the same with AIR if the time comes because that is good business. If you are so unbelievably unhappy with AIR that it is giving you nightmares, then switch platforms and go away. Otherwise, you just look like trolls trying to stir a pot, which I suspect many of you are because you have too much disdain for Adobe and AIR to actually be using their products. Let Adobe work, and try to do the same.

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hferreira80

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If I did conspiracy (freedom do speech) you are doing futurism

And what happen if you are wrong ?

I hope you are man enough to post a sincere apology.

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PippoApps

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Sorry folks, I am going to leave this discussion since it has evolved into a therapy session.

Wishing a happy 64bit Android to all

so long

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hferreira80

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They even did a reset on votes in the tracker!! It went from 120+ votes to 10... (so this on starling forum)

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OMA2k

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hferreira80 wrote
They even did a reset on votes in the tracker!! It went from 120+ votes to 10... (so this on starling forum)

What? Why would they do that?!

So not only they don't acknowledge the issue in the tracker AT ALL, but they also reset votes??!!

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hferreira80

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People are saying that this was a bug but on my opinion they don't want to see the obvious (at least should consider other reasons).

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hferreira80

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This is a great debate.

What ASWC says is true (or part of it is true) but what PippoApps says is also true.

AIR is an high productive runtime however part of that it's you, the developer.

Of course if you compare AIR with Assembly, AIR it's 10.000% more productive even if you are a Assembly Guru, however there are out there other options less productive as AIR but still at least 5.000% more productive then Assembly.

Xamarin allow you to code once and deploy even more options than AIR.

Flutter it's also an option if you like the very new cool new thing.

I have a web base application that I did years ago in 100% pure JS (yes, I said correctly), pure JS and I can say that I create a new page in a matter of minutes (a complex page with several options, grids, etc, etc ...).

I can also test without have to compile anything (so I can say than I can be even more productive).

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hferreira80

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You guys are so concentrate to see who have the reason that you forget the real issue.

You may have "trolling" all this time or you may be thought that is normal and the very last minute you will get an update and prove everyone that you where right or maybe freaking out and losing your mind BUT if you don't have a backup plan right now, it's your fault, simple like that.

zasflower2014

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AIR fixes bugs in versions is OK, How many people use Android Q? And not compatible with the previous Android version of the program.

This is Google's own problem, not Adobe.

Win10 can run Win7 programs. Ios 12 can run iOS 10 app.

Because of what you want to do, global developers will write programs for it again. Who does Google think he is?
If Google writes all the programs on its own operating system, then when I say nothing.
An operating system, if no one writes a program for you, it is nothing.
System upgrades a version, the program has to be re-written once, you play developers?
If the operating system can't even be stable, what are you doing?

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ZachBJ

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Correct.
While MS and Apple still have problems too, Google ways of developing things is way terrible than MS and Apple.

For instance, and we all know about is Chrome. This is the new IE of this century. Even in Chrome we can NOT disable video autoplay , not if we are not using extension.

To develop native Android Apps , we needs LOT OF resources during development. No, you can't use only 1Gb of RAM for using Android Studio + Gradle + Android SDK. You will have a lot more of it....for just creating "Hello Android".
4Gb is bare minimum so everything can runs bit smoothy.

Using Adobe AIR+Flex/Feathers, I don't need those beefy 4Gb to just develop simple "Hello Android" or even much complex one.

PC with 2Gb of RAM, Windows 10 still able to runs on and still able to do various tasks

In Android? We'll have struggle to install say Android O on device only 1Gb of RAM.... Even if you have 2Gb of RAM and then play those big mobile games...? You know what happened then.

while all know Windows is a desktop OS while Android is mobile OS.

I don't know how can mobile OS is hungrier than desktop OS in terms of memory?

Google is the master of resource HOG on almost all products they develop: Chrome, Android, YouTube, Gmail.. but the sad truth is we are using it all

I wonder if someday Google has serious competitor , may be things would change. [But who are Google serious competitor??]

I feel sorry for people that keep blaming Adobe on everything. Thats unwise.

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Leo KanelAuthor

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The issue with Android Q is that Adobe keeps using the Context.MODE_WORLD_READABLE on Android. This was deprecated in API 17 (Android 4.2) and deprecation means that at some point they will remove it. Google removed it on Android Q and thus all apps crash.

This is not something Google will fix on later versions of Android Q or higher. This is something that Adobe needs to fix as we are aware that this changed for about 6 years now. You can learn more about this
here.

Scanning any of your apps with an Android vulnerability analysis system tool will report:

"

[Critical] App Sandbox Permission Checking:

Security issues "MODE_WORLD_READABLE" or "MODE_WORLD_WRITEABLE" found "

This is also an easy fix, which makes things even worst. All they have to do is change MODE_WORLD_READABLE to MODE_PRIVATE. We did this years ago in all of our native apps.

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ZachBJ

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So far I knew Adobe's style: they work silently and give us surprise.
I still remember when Adobe fulfilled requirements for Apple x64 iOS Apps.
CMIIW even at that time Unity didn't make it yet.

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marcanw

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Yep working on Adobe Air requires a lot of nerves but always an happy ending so far.

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tidusf39939682

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Still waiting !!!

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Leo KanelAuthor

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No worries mate, I bet adobe air team is working on it, this is why they don't reply to anything or release anything (as some people say in here..)

Unfortunately due to the stupidity / handling of the issue, my company decided to leave AIR and all new project will be made in Flutter an electron. Only legacy apps will remain in AIR, until they are completely retired.

The decision was made due to the fact that we have about 5 months before Android Q is officially released and 3 months before the 64bit restriction and we still have no reply from adobe that they will fix the issues. Out of respect for our more than 2million users, we are migrating everything. Sad days..

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ASWC

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Good for your company, we did this 2 years ago. AIR is not something any company should rely on, at this point AIR is the only domain of indy developers up until Adobe pulls the plug. There are still people who think Adobe does NOT want people to leave the platform, there are mistaken, Adobe is working actively at making the last few remaining users to leave so they can safely put AIR away for good.

yoonesm68067284

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"We are aware and working on it"

this is the hardest statement for Adobe in this days!

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phillipkerman

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OMG if this wasn't so sad I'd say this is one of the funniest threads I've seen in a while. Maybe some folks are "trolling" but there's also something called a fanboy.

All the theories of where it is, when it's coming, is it coming--all speculation. You can base it on the moon or some schedule or rational you want--whichever.

For my business interests I obvs can't accept the risk beyond the 4 month Android drop dead date.

FWIW, I believe I understood every intent from the non English speaker. [EDIT: had to fix my own typo yet English native.]

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hferreira80

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I understood that you understood what I mean, lol !!!

In a way, you were also "trolling"

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Back to the topic, I believe the best to do is look to other options out there.

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